Food at ATL

Maximillian_Jenius said:
Talk has renewed, and sounds a bit more serious. Naturally Delta is trying to shut it down. And now the DOT is getting involved.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed...ond-atlanta-airport-dot-is-not-investigating/
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Any new airport built in a location like Paulding County would not serve as a reliever, rather a place for an airline such as Allegiant, Spirit, or Frontier to come in and do minor service to vacation destinations. Similar to service from places like Belleville, IL or Latrobe, PA. It is just way too far out. The Paulding County airport is a white elephant, a relatively new airport that the government in that area is trying to justify their expenditure on.

The only metro airport that ever had a good shot at being a true reliever was LZU and that has been shot down so many times in the past 25 years that I don't think it will ever happen.
 
T-Gates said:
Any new airport built in a location like Paulding County would not serve as a reliever, rather a place for an airline such as Allegiant, Spirit, or Frontier to come in and do minor service to vacation destinations. Similar to service from places like Belleville, IL or Latrobe, PA. It is just way too far out. The Paulding County airport is a white elephant, a relatively new airport that the government in that area is trying to justify their expenditure on.

The only metro airport that ever had a good shot at being a true reliever was LZU and that has been shot down so many times in the past 25 years that I don't think it will ever happen.
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Why not FFC?
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
Why not FFC?
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FFC is way too close to ATL and isn't located off a main highway. LZU is off Highway 316 and centrally located in a very densely populated area where, with traffic, it could easily take an hour or more to get to ATL. Some of the worst traffic in the metro area is on that end of town.
 
Edit: I was thinking of FTY not FFC. You do have 74 that runs down to FFC. But that side of town isn't as populated and a good chunk of the people who live in the Peachtree City/Newnan community work for Delta anyways.

To be honest the only thing I'd see happening is if Dobbins were to one day shut down and opened to the public for use.
 
Nick said:
I particularly enjoy the feeling the low ceilings give. Right when it opens up and feels a bit more spacious and you don't mind the too-high-of-an-indoor-temperature anymore? Yep, that means it's time to pack onto an escalator to wait for a train that slams on the brakes four times on the way to the curb.

Edit -- To ATL's credit though, no other facility in the USA has demonstrated an ability to move as many passengers per year without having chronic ground delays. ORD is finally improved with the new runways but still can't quite pull it off in the same way.
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I am in and out of ORD pretty much weekly and hardly have any ground delays. This was before and after the new runway configuration. Furthermore, the ATL controllers are usually slowing down aircraft over DCA headed into ATL. The SOP at ORD is go as fast as one can for as long as possible.

Furthermore, arguably the best airport food in America is located in ORD, Tortas Frontera.
 
CUTigerPilot said:
FFC is right next to I-20/I285. But you're right ATL is just another 5-10 min down I-285.
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You're thinking of FTY (Fulton Co.). FFC is Falcon Field in Peachtree City.

To be honest the only thing I'd see happening is if Dobbins were to one day shut down and opened to the public for use.
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I agree. LZU has been shot down so many times that I don't think it would ever happen.
 
Having flown from KNQX, to KPWM, to KORS, to KNZY and countless airports in between KATL would not even be in my top 10 worst airports especially for food. Many food options in every terminal; you don't have to go through security every time you try to jump seat on a different airline or even worse, same airline but a different flight (KMCI); security is pretty quick for airline personnel; places to crash if you are stuck.
Only down side for military is that the USO is not 24/7- kind of surprising considering how many military personnel move through there.
 
Seggy said:
I am in and out of ORD pretty much weekly and hardly have any ground delays. This was before and after the new runway configuration. Furthermore, the ATL controllers are usually slowing down aircraft over DCA headed into ATL. The SOP at ORD is go as fast as one can for as long as possible.

Furthermore, arguably the best airport food in America is located in ORD, Tortas Frontera.
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Probably going to catch flak for this, but the controllers on the east coast suck. They will routinely slow down the whole line because some idiot is up in the front of the line sand bagging, going .68-.70. Out west, they'll pull that guy off the air way, let faster traffic by, and just penalize the guy going slow, not every one behind him.
 
Going slower is starting to be dictated by Cost Indexing (CI), and even Smart Cost Indexing.
Fuel is one of the biggest expenditures for an airline and saving several hundred pounds per leg adds up to real money pretty quickly. I also know several instances where crews have gotten themselves into trouble (landing with little fuel), by just pushing the thrust levers forward and not flying their profile.
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
Talk has renewed, and sounds a bit more serious. Naturally Delta is trying to shut it down. And now the DOT is getting involved.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed...ond-atlanta-airport-dot-is-not-investigating/
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Max,
Like ATN says, not gonna happen. Several of the county commisheners who were pushing for this have been voted out of office and replaced by anti commercial airport people. They started this DOT fight before leaving office and the new people who are replacing them have told the DOT that they intend to kill the proposal.

Game over.
 
Blackhawk said:
Going slower is starting to be dictated by Cost Indexing (CI), and even Smart Cost Indexing.
Fuel is one of the biggest expenditures for an airline and saving several hundred pounds per leg adds up to real money pretty quickly. I also know several instances where crews have gotten themselves into trouble (landing with little fuel), by just pushing the thrust levers forward and not flying their profile.
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Absolutely. Going fast gets you there just a few minutes earlier with a lot less gas. Paid by the minute anyway.
 
mshunter said:
Probably going to catch flak for this, but the controllers on the east coast suck. They will routinely slow down the whole line because some idiot is up in the front of the line sand bagging, going .68-.70. Out west, they'll pull that guy off the air way, let faster traffic by, and just penalize the guy going slow, not every one behind him.
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Clearly you haven't dealt with JAX/MIA/NYC then, because those are some of the best. IAD on the other hand......
 
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