BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Yep. I got a nice laugh out of it.
Fo is a little behind the curve
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Yep. I got a nice laugh out of it.
Blackhawk
Well-Known Member
What everyone else said. How often do you fly with this FO? If you are together for a month or so it may be a pain but you've got some time to train him and see if he comes along. I remember as an FO I sat reserve for over a month after IOE before I flew again. Talk about behind. Fortunately I had a good captain who was patient and she helped me along. On the other hand if you fly with the guy for a while and he is not progressing it may be time to get the training department involved. He may need to be pulled off line and given more training as a last resort. It's not easy to do,but if it gets to that point it is better to do that than to read about him on the front page of the NY Times.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
I used to fly with a lot of 250-300 hour guys at Cape. They'd come in and build SIC time until they were eligible to get an ATP and upgrade. Great program for them, but many of the guys wouldn't let them fly if the weather was less than perfect. Screw that; I swapped legs every time. Never flown on a dark and stormy night? Great, your leg! I never let anyone put the aircraft at risk, and they all did a great job.
Gotta learn sometime.
Gotta learn sometime.
Autothrust Blue
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You're what we call a "cool captain."I used to fly with a lot of 250-300 hour guys at Cape. They'd come in and build SIC time until they were eligible to get an ATP and upgrade. Great program for them, but many of the guys wouldn't let them fly if the weather was less than perfect. Screw that; I swapped legs every time. Never flown on a dark and stormy night? Great, your leg! I never let anyone put the aircraft at risk, and they all did a great job.
Gotta learn sometime.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
I fly strictly by the book.I'm also the most laid back, standard pilot you'll ever fly with.
ctab5060X
Well-Known Member
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
And all my landings are greasers.
CaptBill
Well-Known Member
All pilots, regardless of hours, have their strengths and weaknesses. I would think a good captain would create an atmosphere on the flight deck to allow the FO to perform at his best and on a pace he can handle. If I know the FO is a little behind, it is clearly in my best interest to slow things down a bit and allow some catch-up time. Praise their strong points and work patiently on the things that they need work on. If they do one thing better tomorrow than they did today, then you have done well. There are times when dynamic situations won't allow the softer, gentler approach to things, and in those moments the captain will just do what is needed to insure the safety of the flight and talk about it on the layover or at the gate. And for you FOs, you may find yourself in a situation as well when you are flying with a new captain that is a little behind or having trouble with something. Your professionalism and patience will serve you well as you offer advice and assist him in becoming a better captain. Your flight will be safer if you can work as a team, even if one is a bit behind or having an off day, which we all have from time to time.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
It happens every once in a great while where I work. I'd say the great majority (99%) of the guys I fly with are fantastic and are pretty well squared away.
That being said, I've wondered what a few guys have been thinking. Or rather, I've wondered IF they were thinking. Sometimes it's just a bad trip for them (it happens to everybody), and sometimes it goes a bit deeper.
mattyt98
Well-Known Member
I agree sometimes they slip through and get that 4th stripe before they are ready. I would say though that they are probably pretty sharp though at this point and may need a little more experience to be a competent capt. I am thinking that this is why the whole green on green came about.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
You would think, but most green on green restrictions apply to time in seat meaning just because a captain only has 40 hours in the left seat, they can still fly with a green FO if they have more than 100 hours in the right seat, even though they aren't actually sitting in it at the time.
mattyt98
Well-Known Member
Well i guess its just the nature of the airlines, That's why I hate seniority based decisions just because one guy has been at that point doesnt mean he is ready but because his number is up he gets to move left even if he may not be ready but there may be someone with thousands and thousands of hours experience sitting in the right seat that was furloughed or laid off someplace else and he has to watch these friggin knobs move up.
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
TowJoe
You really Schruted that one
(Not directed towards you) When I've heard people say this it means: I know a couple things really well, but I am oblivious to a lot of the book...unless they end it with "I make mistakes so speak up if you see something you don't like"
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
The way I've heard it, usually the people who say that make you wonder which book they're talking about.
Autothrust Blue
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Like democracy, it is the worst way of doing things—except for all the other ways.
Ask someone who's enjoyed "merit based upgrades" about them.