Flying clubs

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What is the general opinion of flying clubs?

There is a local club that has two Bellanca 7GCBC aircraft. It is $90/month and $30/hr dry. To me it seems like a good deal, but I am curious what other people have to say.
 
I like flying clubs. They were put in place when the insurance crisis hit the aviation industry. Just don't join one that requires a long term obligation and you should be fine.
 
They can be good or bad. Definitely not one of those "Stay AWAY!" things. Depends on the rules and how much you fly. Sit down, look at your time last year, how much you can expect this year and see if it makes sense. On any plan with a monthly cost, the more you fly the more it makes sense.
 
Just make sure it's with a credible group of guys as well.

What sucks is there is one on this side of Atlanta, that I know of, and unfortunately I wouldn't go near the aircraft or the "owners" of the craft anyday of the week.
 
Like everything I'd investigate each one carefully. Some are good, some are not, but after looking at them and comparing them to your needs you'll be able to find a good one.

A few years ago I narrowed my desicion to one of two clubs I'd join. The one I joined had one 1978 C172. It had a low hourly rate, low monthly dues. There were only 8 members, 5 of which where original members that established the club 12 years prior. I had a great time. Although I have friends that haven't been so fortunate. Be careful
 
Thanks for the advice. I will take a deeper look at them in the future. If this works out, maybe I am rack up some hours this summer.:)
 
You need to understand that there are two broad types of flying clubs. There are non-profit flying clubs and there are for-profit flying clubs.

Non-profit clubs are generally situations where a group of people got together, pooled their money and bought a plane to share. All members are part owners of all the assets and all costs are divided among all the members. Because of this, you usually have at least some say in how the aircraft are maintained and how/when they are upgraded. Want a garmin 430 put in? If you can get enough of the other guys to agree with you, and you're all willing to put up a few hundred bucks, you can make it happen.


Then there are for-profit clubs. These are buyers clubs like Sam's and BJ's. Members are really nothing more than customers and don't own any club assets. In most cases, these end up being something of a discount FBO. Cheaper than a regular FBO but usually a little more expensive than a non-profit club. And you are a customer, not an owner, so you have no say in how the equipment is maintained or upgraded. OTOH, you won't have to pay a dime out of pocket to fix a major unexpected repair as can often happen in non-profit clubs.

When investigating any flying club, the first thing you want to do is figure out which type you're dealing with. Non-profit clubs tend to be cheaper than for-profit clubs. But they carry some additional risk in terms of having to write an extra check now and them in order to keep the planes flying, even if you're not the one flying them at that time. That being said, I was a member of a non-profit club for many years and I thought it was a great value. I'm relocating next month and once I get settled in our new home, looking for a non-profit flying club will be one of the first things I do.
 
Just make sure it's with a credible group of guys as well.

What sucks is there is one on this side of Atlanta, that I know of, and unfortunately I wouldn't go near the aircraft or the "owners" of the craft anyday of the week.

Hi Surreal,

At least you got that. Down here in SoFL, there is ZILCH, NADA, NOTHING, {empty}.

Agree with Joe about the different kinds. Even smaller, you might find 2-3 guys in partnerships looking for another partner.

Sucky thing is that after the collapse of leaseback deals, and the huge liability scare/insurance run-up after 9/11, most of the rental fleets evaporated, and most of the hulls disappeared into such groups.

But in any event, due dilligence is absolutely key whoever you are looking to get involved with. I've been looking for a potential partner or not-for-profit club of some kind of GA for 2 years now, and can't find anyone remotely responsible enough.

Richman
 
If the flying club does check out, I would say that those are pretty good rates for those airplanes, depending on how available they are.
 
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