Flightaware/Int'l Flt question

Kristie

Kristie

Mama Bear....
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So why does flightaware show a plane crossing the atlantic, facing north? does that mean the planes are no longer in radar feed?

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Flight aware, while providing some great info, is sometimes not the most accurate thing. Don't look at the way the plane is pointing so much as the time to destination, the speed, and the altitude.

That's my experience with using flight aware domestically.
 
Kristie said:
So why does flightaware show a plane crossing the atlantic, facing north? does that mean the planes are no longer in radar feed?

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If the fligth is out of range, I think that is just where they can longer get reliable signals. They always leave the message:

At least part of this flight occurs outside of FlightAware's service area. Information on this page may be unreliable.....


Probably just the point where it drops off.
 
They're no longer in radar feed, because they're likely no longer under radar--hence all the position reporting they have to do via HF radio.
 
We're FMC and actually only had to do one HF position report somewhere near entering Santa Maria's airspace.

Pretty smooth flight. Just us, a Royal Jordanian flight and some corporate jet. 123.45 was dead quiet that time of the night.
 
Doug Taylor said:
We're FMC and actually only had to do one HF position report somewhere near entering Santa Maria's airspace.

Pretty smooth flight. Just us, a Royal Jordanian flight and some corporate jet. 123.45 was dead quiet that time of the night.
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Man, back in the days when I flew tankers (and dinosaurs roamed the earth.. I know...) we were UHF and HF only. And since VERY few of the sectors out there had UHF, we were on HF early and often. Used to hate that. And I was VERY envious of those who had selcal as well.
 
Fly4Pay said:
And I was VERY envious of those who had selcal as well.
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Agreed! When we go to Bermuda, we're using HF and I absolutely hate listening to the screeching, static and selcal tones, not to mention half the time we can't even contact who we're supposed to. Granted, it's only 30 mins at a time, but that's long enough.
 
Somehow FlightAware is linked to the FAA-Real Time database. Which is connected to all Radar sites.

What does this mean?

The FAA's computers upload LAT/LONG coordinates to Flight Aware and they plot it- really simple actually. When you look up a flight and it shows you it's current position and altitude- you're just seeing it's last position report as long as it is received within the last 15 mins. If no position report is received in 15 mins, they will tell you (En Route) No Position Report. Flight aware is smart enough to know what airports are outside of their coverage area and they display the message accordingly.

When no position report is received/transmitted by the FAA's computer in return Flight Aware doesn't get it and we can't see it.
 
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