Flight of Fear (Pencil whipping of training records?)

mpenguin1

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http://www.forbes.com/home/forbes/2005/0509/042.html

Only now, almost three years after the crash on Aug. 30, 2002, has Babb's family claimed they've discovered a startling secret: The co-pilot's records had been "pencil whipped," or falsified, to indicate he had fulfilled Federal Aviation Administration requirements for annual proficiency flights with a certified inspector, the equivalent of a driving test for pilots. In a lawsuit filed in Florida state court, the family alleges the co-pilot was inexperienced and misused the emergency brake, causing the deadly skid. "A thing like this doesn't happen unless someone screwed up," says the Babbs' lawyer, David Rapoport of Chicago. The FAA is investigating the allegation, he says.
 
So, how exactly does one "misuse" an emergency brake? Pull the handle sideways? Here'sw the NTSB report:

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20020916X01611&key=1

Sounds like the captain is more at fault than the FO's "misuse of emergency braking." Maybe they shoulda forgone the whole thrust reverse thing when they realized they weren't deployed. I agree that the FO shouldn't have "pencil whipped" his logbook, but to me this sounds like another person trying to get paid from a fatal accident. The NTSB didn't even cite misuse of emergency braking as a probable cause.
 
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Sounds like the captain is more at fault than the FO's "misuse of emergency braking." Maybe they shoulda forgone the whole thrust reverse thing when they realized they weren't deployed. I agree that the FO shouldn't have "pencil whipped" his logbook, but to me this sounds like another person trying to get paid from a fatal accident. The NTSB didn't even cite misuse of emergency braking as a probable cause.

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, I thought the info about the FO's logbooks was a complete non sequitur to the reason for the crash and the rest of the article. It's just a gratuitous shot at the FO by a money-grubbing P.I. lawyer.


Not that I have any strong opinions about such things.
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Sadly, they'll win, too. Since it's not a criminal case, they just have to prove that he COULD have had a hand in the accident and they'l gets paid. Part of what's wrong with GA in general is the frivilous lawsuits and people that don't want to accept the truth that their loved ones made a mistake instead of a part failing.
 
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how do you misuse a drag chute (I assume that's what they're talkin about with the emergency brake)

[/ QUOTE ] I know almost nothing about the Lears, but all the modern jets have back up systems for the brakes. Even though the Lear 25's are old, I would guess they would also have been required to have this. Since they referred to nitrogen pressure, the emergency brakes are probably nitrogen powered. If this is the case, there would be independent brake lines going to the wheel brakes into the same brake calipers used by the hydraulic system. If there is a total hydraulic failure, then N2 is sent to the brakes by a lever in the cockpit. These can be tricky to use, since they apply pressure to both wheels at once and you have to be careful how hard you press on the lever. At first it seems like nothing is happening, so you keep pressing harder. This can lead to a blown tire from a locked wheel if you are not careful.

To me the tower description of the jet landing fast and having the nose wheel in the air and the pilot describing 'aerodynamic braking' leads me to believe that the aircraft never 'made squat switch' when it landed. For the thrust reversers to deploy, you have to have both main wheels solidly on the ground. If you try to flare too much, then even when the wheels are on the ground, you may not activate the squat switches if a strut did not fully compress as it would in a normal landing. If the pilot gets caught up in why he can't pull the T/R levers up instead of using the brakes, you can eat up alot of runway. Especially if you prolong the flare. Again I have no knowledge of the Lear, but some of the more primitive electric antiskid systems may also not work correctly if the jet does not think it is on the ground. If the squat switches were not activated, then the brakes may not have acted the way they would on a normal landing.

To get the flight manual performance, you have to cross the threshold exactly at Ref, touch down about 1,000' down the runway with minimal flare and stand on the brakes for all you are worth. Anything less than an approach flown exactly by the numbers that results in an aircraft carrier like landing and max antiskid braking will result in a landing roll longer than book value. Coming in high and fast or 'floating' down the runway due to an excessive flare can eat up thousands of feet of runway. Getting distracted when you should be on the brakes can eat up more.

We don't know what really happened, there may have been a mechanical failure. But 7000' is a lot of runway. Even if the T/R's failed to deploy and the brakes failed, there should have been enough room to pop the drag chute and use the emergency brakes (assuming it had emergency brakes). The chute alone would probably not have stopped the jet, but would have made the impact less severe.

Always remember that brakes stop airplanes. Unless you are flying very large transports the accelerate stop performance and landing distance does not include T/R's.
 
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how do you misuse a drag chute (I assume that's what they're talkin about with the emergency brake)

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Easy. Three main ways:

1. Using it out of limits; mainly crosswind limits. The drag chute in crosswind conditions had a huge ability to weathervane the aircraft. On my jet, we have a 15 knot crosswind limit on drag chute usage for this reason, and for another. Due to the drag chute housing being in-between the elevons, the chance of wrapping the chute around them with a deployment in a heavy crosswind is huge. As the chute gets jammed in between the stabs on the elevons, they can cause up to $50,000 of damage.

2. Not deploying the handle correctly. Again, on my plane, when deploying the chute, you really have to yank the handle firmly all the way to the stop. If you don't, you lose the chute! The way the chute is packed in the back of the plane, it's holdback isn't connected into the metal "jaws" that keep it connected to the plane. By pulling the handle firmly all the way out to the detent, you do two things: open the chute doors, and close the clasp jaws around the chute holdback. If you pull the handle too slowly, or not to the detent, you succeed in opening the doors, but the jaws never close, so the whole chute bundle goes out the back of the plane.

3. Late deployment of the chute. Self explanatory.
 
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The chute alone would probably not have stopped the jet, but would have made the impact less severe.



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Wait until you use a drag chute someday. Those baby's really slow you down quick. Everytime I pop the chute (at about a nominal 185 touchdown), I get thrown forward in the parachute straps due to the severe deceleration. The speed drops off so quickly, that by 3000-4000 feet of rollout, I'm down to about 70 knots with no braking yet accomplished. It really does work very well.
 
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Everytime I pop the chute (at about a nominal 185 touchdown),

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Dang. How many landings do you get out of the tires? Not many, I'm guessing.
 
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Everytime I pop the chute (at about a nominal 185 touchdown),

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Dang. How many landings do you get out of the tires? Not many, I'm guessing.

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Word!

What are those tars made from, bro?????
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