Flight instructor survives East Hartford plane crash.

Old Pete said:
This reminds me of one of the strangest conversations I have ever had in an airplane. A student once asked me while we were flying, what I would do if someone tried kill me. I then said that I was trained to recover the airplane from any attitude and that he should not worry about that. He then said, No I mean if someone really wanted to KILL YOU!!. Uh, if you mean intentionally crash the airplane, probably not much. You're a pretty big guy and I probably couldn't overpower you and by the same token if I wanted to kill you there isn't a damned thing you could do about it. I guess when we both get into this airplane we have to trust that we aren't going to try and kill each other.
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He's probably an FFDO now. :rolleyes:
 
Old Pete said:
This reminds me of one of the strangest conversations I have ever had in an airplane. A student once asked me while we were flying, what I would do if someone tried kill me. I then said that I was trained to recover the airplane from any attitude and that he should not worry about that. He then said, No I mean if someone really wanted to KILL YOU!!. Uh, if you mean intentionally crash the airplane, probably not much. You're a pretty big guy and I probably couldn't overpower you and by the same token if I wanted to kill you there isn't a damned thing you could do about it. I guess when we both get into this airplane we have to trust that we aren't going to try and kill each other.
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Sounds like a fun individual to instruct
 
Old Pete said:
This reminds me of one of the strangest conversations I have ever had in an airplane. A student once asked me while we were flying, what I would do if someone tried kill me. I then said that I was trained to recover the airplane from any attitude and that he should not worry about that. He then said, No I mean if someone really wanted to KILL YOU!!. Uh, if you mean intentionally crash the airplane, probably not much. You're a pretty big guy and I probably couldn't overpower you and by the same token if I wanted to kill you there isn't a damned thing you could do about it. I guess when we both get into this airplane we have to trust that we aren't going to try and kill each other.
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I don't think id have gotten in the plane with that guy. But then I've never been on a CFI starvation diet.
 
To play devils advocate and by no means suggesting a factual conclusion, what's to say that his narrative is fact? It's one live guy's word against a dead guy with no black boxes to say otherwise. What if one wanted to save face after bungling something up and surviving? This would be one clean way to walk away without any blemish on a record.


If it really is "terrorism" as the media is painting it, with the location close to Pratt & Whitney (though probably a coincidence with the airport of departure nearby), then so be it and label as such. But if the other side is true in which the reports are saying the guy was depressed and his family was forcing him to become a pilot even though he didn't want to, then that is sad.
 
I had to stick a pen into a students leg once, he froze up during stalls, no response. Out came the pen, into the leg it went. I think he is at Skywest now. He just needed a little extra encouragement.
 
av8tr1 said:
I used to fly with a Captain who told a story of a buddy of his who was killed by someone who hired him for a photo flight (I think it was his father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate). They were flying low over the place the guy wanted to "take pictures of" and during a low pass the guy put his feet on the yoke and pushed. The guy was apparently able to get a radio call out before the crash to explain the situation but ultimately crashed during the struggle killing both on board.

Which reminds me of this gem.....
http://forums.jetcareers.com/threads/strangest-passenger-evarrrrrr.216762/
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Sounds like a horrible way to go. I wonder if he was somehow able to push him out of the plane, what the consequences would be.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
To play devils advocate and by no means suggesting a factual conclusion, what's to say that his narrative is fact? It's one live guy's word against a dead guy with no black boxes to say otherwise. What if one wanted to save face after bungling something up and surviving? This would be one clean way to walk away without any blemish on a record.


If it really is "terrorism" as the media is painting it, with the location close to Pratt & Whitney (though probably a coincidence with the airport of departure nearby), then so be it and label as such. But if the other side is true in which the reports are saying the guy was depressed and his family was forcing him to become a pilot even though he didn't want to, then that is sad.
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Last I heard they are calling it suicide. Have to admit, that thought crossed my mind.
That's one serious mental illness to decide to take out others with yourself. Especially since he could have rented a single engine by himself and flown it into an outdoor billboard he paid to have a picture of his parents on. Or something.
 
bucksmith said:
Last I heard they are calling it suicide. Have to admit, that thought crossed my mind.
That's one serious mental illness to decide to take out others with yourself. Especially since he could have rented a single engine by himself and flown it into an outdoor billboard he paid to have a picture of his parents on. Or something.
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Like that German Wings ass who killed everyone onboard.

If things are that bad, don't hurt anyone else in the process, go make a big mess in your bathroom or something.
 
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