"Flight Express 312 . . .

CLE ATC sux big time. The other day they asked us to maintain 210 knots, and when we started slowing about 5 miles out they told us we were supposed to keep our speed up and we had messed up their spacing. About every other time I get some weird instruction from them.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Here were my taxi instructions off of 24L:

"Taxi on lima short of sierra"

(ack)

"Wait...uhh, hold right there"

(ack)

"The continental on 24L might make Lima 1"

(ack)

"Ok, Airliner 450 continue on Lima, hold short sierra, he's not goign to make it"

(ack)

"Ok, hold for the Eagle RJ departing the ramp"

"Where is eagle?" (me)

"Oh, ok, he's on Whiskey, hold for the express RJ, the Beech Airliner will wait for you at Sierra then to the gate"

(ack)

(the 1900 continues onto the taxiway)

"Airliner 450, you moving?"

"Nope, the 1900 kept taxiing so we waited"

Aye.... suck suck suck.
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Welcome to The Mistake On The Lake, Doug. At least you guys are on the other side of B. They just re-numbered all our spots on the CAL ramp and it's the biggest cluster.

Ramp: "Jetlink XXXX taxi to the new Spot 5."

Random Jetlink: "Um...ok, Spot 5...Spot 5...and that's..."

Ramp: "Around the terminal where the old Spot 3 was."

To the Captain: "Just taxi slow and I'll look for it."

That place is just a big mess. I can't wait until the new de-ice pad to open. It'll be a mess.
 
Speaking of ATC issues (random thread creep) we are dropping the first number of the flight number starting November 4th. Hence JIA2345 will become JIA345. Maybe this will stop the mix up as it gets old being called Jetlink, JetBlue and even Jazz. It's going to make for an interesting week though. I just listen for the "bluestreak twenty...." We won't always have the "twenty" any more. Grrr.
 
FlyChicaga said:
I do not heart anything CLE controlled.
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I hear ya! Yesterday was a first for me. CLE Center wanted Max Forward Speed. Check on with approach and guess what we got. First time ever I've had to slow from 310 to 170, then they're yelling at me to get down. I already had the boards out and I was waiting for that pesky 250 below 10 rule.
 
BobDDuck said:
Speaking of ATC issues (random thread creep) we are dropping the first number of the flight number starting November 4th. Hence JIA2345 will become JIA345. Maybe this will stop the mix up as it gets old being called Jetlink, JetBlue and even Jazz. It's going to make for an interesting week though. I just listen for the "bluestreak twenty...." We won't always have the "twenty" any more. Grrr.
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I just listen for the numbers any more. If I hear (like you said) Jetlink, JetBlue, or Jazz and our flight number I'll question them before I ack. I was laughing when I heard the lady on ground in CLT call Jetlink "Bluestreak."

That new flight numbering I believe is meant so we and ATC don't get confused when there are similar Bluestreaks on freq. How that's going to work, I'm not really sure. 2209 and 2208 will now be 209 and 208 so on and so forth.
 
EDUC8-or said:
That new flight numbering I believe is meant so we and ATC don't get confused when there are similar Bluestreaks on freq. How that's going to work, I'm not really sure. 2209 and 2208 will now be 209 and 208 so on and so forth.
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How is differentiating between 2209 and 2208 any different then between 209 and 208?
 
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