CamYZ125
Well-Known Member
First off, mods, feel free to move this post to the FA section. I posted it here because that section doesn't get a whole lot of traffic.
I have a question for everyone (specifically part 121 crew members) about flight attendant duty regulations. I was a pilot at a part 121 airline, and I'm not certain if the regulations I came to know apply to FA's as well. With that said:
As a reserve pilot at my former airline, my reserve shift was considered duty time. If I started my reserve shift at 0500, then I had to complete duty no later than 16 hours after that, or 2100. They could call me at 0500, or at 1200, or whenever they wanted during my reserve shift, and assign me a trip as long as I was released from duty prior to 2100.
I know someone working as a flight attendant for an airline which will remain unnamed. Supposedly this airline does not consider reserve time to be duty time. For example, she was on reserve today from 0800-2000. Around 1500, she was notified of a trip beginning around 1700. This just happens to be a transcon turn which does not terminate until approx 0700 tomorrow morning. What?! Is that legal? The airline says that her duty does not begin until she shows for the trip, in which case her duty time is about 14 hours. But everything that I have come to know, her duty time began at 0800... in which case her duty time is 23 hours!!
Is this legit? Part 121.467 talks about duty/rest time, and states that during a rest period a flight attendant must be released from ALL duty. So, if the company is not considering reserve time to be duty time, then it must be rest time and therefore she isn't required to answer her phone at all on reserve, right?
In my opinion, this is in violation of the FAR's. But I guess I don't know everything about all the regulations which govern flight attendants. Her supervisor says "It's legal, and we've been doing it for years". I call BS...
Input?
I have a question for everyone (specifically part 121 crew members) about flight attendant duty regulations. I was a pilot at a part 121 airline, and I'm not certain if the regulations I came to know apply to FA's as well. With that said:
As a reserve pilot at my former airline, my reserve shift was considered duty time. If I started my reserve shift at 0500, then I had to complete duty no later than 16 hours after that, or 2100. They could call me at 0500, or at 1200, or whenever they wanted during my reserve shift, and assign me a trip as long as I was released from duty prior to 2100.
I know someone working as a flight attendant for an airline which will remain unnamed. Supposedly this airline does not consider reserve time to be duty time. For example, she was on reserve today from 0800-2000. Around 1500, she was notified of a trip beginning around 1700. This just happens to be a transcon turn which does not terminate until approx 0700 tomorrow morning. What?! Is that legal? The airline says that her duty does not begin until she shows for the trip, in which case her duty time is about 14 hours. But everything that I have come to know, her duty time began at 0800... in which case her duty time is 23 hours!!
Is this legit? Part 121.467 talks about duty/rest time, and states that during a rest period a flight attendant must be released from ALL duty. So, if the company is not considering reserve time to be duty time, then it must be rest time and therefore she isn't required to answer her phone at all on reserve, right?
In my opinion, this is in violation of the FAR's. But I guess I don't know everything about all the regulations which govern flight attendants. Her supervisor says "It's legal, and we've been doing it for years". I call BS...
Input?
