Flew the Skycatcher Today

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I was lucky enough to have the opportunity to take a flight in Cessna's much maligned Skycatcher today.

At first glance I was a bit surprised by the Spartan interior. Pretty much everything has been removed to save weight. There is no interior, it's just bare metal painted black. You can see rudder and elevator cables running down the sides of the fuselage. There is nothing but a mesh net that separates the baggage area from the tailcone.

When I climbed in, I was surprised by the seating position. It's a lot different from from the 172. In the 172 it feels like you're flying a barstool. In the Skycatcher you're sitting slightly reclined with your feet straight out in front of you. The cabin feels very spacious - I was told it's wider than a 206. There was tons of shoulder and head room. The seats are not adjustable. Think of them as a futon mattress on a metal frame. The rudder pedals adjust to the length of your legs.

The plane has a free castering nosewheel, which pilots either love or hate. The strangest thing is the "Control Stick" device for controlling the ailerons and rudders. It feels like the side yoke in a Cirrus, but it doesn't pivot with the wrist. It's designed to move like a traditional stick - forward, backward, left, and right. This takes some getting used to. I kept trying to bank by flicking my wrist over and it kept on not working.

The Skycatcher took off quickly and climbed at an impressive rate - over 1000 FPM at max gross. With no interior finish panels to absorb the sound of the O-200D engine, climbout was loud. The teeny tiny cowl provided fantastic visibility. At 2600 RPM we were cruising at 115 KTAS. I then put it through some yanking, banking, and stalls. It's more responsive than bigger Cessnas, and the stalls were pretty docile. I was still trying to get used to the control stick.

The G300 MFD is pretty impressive, especially when compared to the offerings from other LSAs. It has the option of XM radio and weather, which will get you TAFs, AIRMETs, and other things right there on the MFD. The Skycatcher's only navigation device is the GPS. It has a cute little VNAV feature that allows you to specify what altitude you want to be at when you arrive at a certain point and then gives you a glideslope.

I did some landings with a 10 knot crosswind and the Skycatcher performed well. With the plane being so light it does get tossed around quite a bit on final, so some big corrections were necessary to keep the blue side up and the green side down. Another consequence of the light weight is that it likes to float.

I then flew it back home at about 1000 AGL and had some fun chasing deer around fields and such. Maybe it's just because for once I was just poking holes in the sky instead of flying to accomplish something, but flying the Skycatcher is the most fun I've had flying in quite a while.

My post-flight thoughts are that Cessna has a winner here. Yes, it has a horrible useful load. Yes, some people hate the fact that it's built in China. But the fact of the matter is that the Skycatcher is fun to fly. It's easy to handle and is clearly aimed at the weekend warrior owner pilot. The feature that most sets it apart from the competition is the G300 panel. It couldn't possibly make things any easier for a private pilot to poke holes in the sky. The seats aren't very comfortable, but then again you can't really carry enough gas to go anywhere.

If Cessna could produce a version of the 162 with an extra 150 pounds of useful load and was certified for IFR, they would create an absolutely fantastic trainer. Unfortunately, that would probably push the price to ridiculously high levels and won't happen.
 
I sat in one at Osh Kosh. I didnt fit very well. I'm 6'4" 190 lbs. I could fly it, but it might get uncomfortable.. of course, its not going to be much of a long haul take trips kind of airplane. I'm looking forward to actually getting to fly one.
 
Got a friend who is considering buying himself one of these, I'll have him take a look at this. I'd much rather have a 172 or a smaller piper, but he insists he dosn't need four seats :dunno:
 
Got a friend who is considering buying himself one of these, I'll have him take a look at this. I'd much rather have a 172 or a smaller piper, but he insists he dosn't need four seats :dunno:

150/152? Or a Cherokee 140? I know the 140 has 4 seats but really it's a GREAT 2 place airplane and room in the back for a couple bags.

I don't want to put the Skycatcher down since I've never flown it, but I couldn't imagine buying the first year of a brand new model from any manufacturer. Gentleman from our flight school that leased back an aircraft to us did that, with a light sport, and we ended up trading it in for a newer and upgraded model. Never drive, buy or fly the A model of anything right?
 
Thanks for the review, I enjoyed reading it. I think I'm going to take a discovery flight in an LSA sometime soon just as an excuse to log some time in one. Looks like fun!
 
Thanks for the review, I enjoyed reading it. I think I'm going to take a discovery flight in an LSA sometime soon just as an excuse to log some time in one. Looks like fun!
They are.
I flew a PiperSport last week for the first time. Fabulous!!!
 
They should have dug out the tooling for the old 120/140 assembly line, recertified the airplane at a gross weight of 1320 and been done with it. They would have ended up with a superior airplane and I would have bought one. Cessna is ghey. Nosewheels are ghey.
 
Looks like fun!

They are, and I really think that the LSA segment has an opportunity to revitalize GA. In five or ten years when somebody can pick up an LSA for $40,000-$50,000 and then only burn four gallons an hour on top of that is when the market is going to take off.
 
They should have dug out the tooling for the old 120/140 assembly line, recertified the airplane at a gross weight of 1320 and been done with it. They would have ended up with a superior airplane and I would have bought one. Cessna is ghey. Nosewheels are ghey.

People tried to do that with an STC, but the way the FAA wrote the rules, if a plane has ever been operated above the 1320 (or 1430) weight limit, it can't be operated by a sport pilot, ever. Its similar to the Ercoupes. Some are light enough to be sport pilot eligible and some of them aren't.

They are, and I really think that the LSA segment has an opportunity to revitalize GA. In five or ten years when somebody can pick up an LSA for $40,000-$50,000 and then only burn four gallons an hour on top of that is when the market is going to take off.

I used to believe that, but I don't think its really true. You can pick up tons of airplanes for $40-50 grand, but you don't see people doing it. Sure, it may get a few people in, but I doubt the S-LSA prices ever get low enough that nearly everyone can buy one. Now, if you want to talk about amature built airplanes, you might be able to get the price low enough.
 
People tried to do that with an STC, but the way the FAA wrote the rules, if a plane has ever been operated above the 1320 (or 1430) weight limit, it can't be operated by a sport pilot, ever. Its similar to the Ercoupes. Some are light enough to be sport pilot eligible and some of them aren't.

That's why I'm saying recertify it. Dig out the tooling, create the airplane, and certify it as a "Cessna 130" with a MGTOW of 1320. New airplane, not a 140, or a 120. The costs for certification of a new plane being "fixed" then it would have been a wash for the costs of the 162. Testing would have been cheaper/easier (known quantity vs. the 162) and everyone knows how a Cessna 130 would spin as opposed to the 162. It would have been cheaper for Cessna to do this, it would have been a superior airplane to the 162, and I would have been happier with them. A friend of mines father is Chairman Emeritus of Cessna (Russ Meyer). I have lobbied at various times for the re-introduction of the 195, the re-introduction of the 185, and the Cessna 130 idea. All to no avail. Cessna is stupid and ghey.
 
That's why I'm saying recertify it. Dig out the tooling, create the airplane, and certify it as a "Cessna 130" with a MGTOW of 1320. New airplane, not a 140, or a 120. The costs for certification of a new plane being "fixed" then it would have been a wash for the costs of the 162. Testing would have been cheaper/easier (known quantity vs. the 162) and everyone knows how a Cessna 130 would spin as opposed to the 162. It would have been cheaper for Cessna to do this, it would have been a superior airplane to the 162, and I would have been happier with them. A friend of mines father is Chairman Emeritus of Cessna (Russ Meyer). I have lobbied at various times for the re-introduction of the 195, the re-introduction of the 185, and the Cessna 130 idea. All to no avail. Cessna is stupid and ghey.

Would it be cool, sure. Cost effective, no way. I would say its very likely that a new production Cessna 130 would not meet the requirements of the ASTM standards. Plus, even if you take the advertised empty weight on a Cessna 120, it doesn't give you the greatest useful load numbers (somewhere in the neighborhood of 550 pounds of useful load). Couple that with the fact that the C85 isn't built anymore (to my knowledge), you are going to loose weight to a heavier engine, plus the basic electronic systems that they inevitably put in them. You'd be better off with one of the new J3 models, IMO, or even the Luscombe LSA (if they still make it).
 
I used to believe that, but I don't think its really true. You can pick up tons of airplanes for $40-50 grand, but you don't see people doing it. Sure, it may get a few people in, but I doubt the S-LSA prices ever get low enough that nearly everyone can buy one. Now, if you want to talk about amature built airplanes, you might be able to get the price low enough.

I'm still optimistic. These planes will be selling on the used market for $40-50k and come with glass panels, gps, XM weather, autopilots, and even parachutes. While we here at JC might rag on these features at times, these are exactly what a $100 hamburger pilot wants. Then we add fuel costs - 5 gph instead of 10 gph in a Cherokee 140, and a fact that quite a few of the LSAs can run on auto gas.
 
Thanks for the writeup. I got to sit in one the other day - ran the rudder pedals all the way to the forward position (I am 6'5...skinny, though - lets me carry more payload I guess) and was comfortable enough. Not overly comfortable though.

Two decently sized dudes and full tanks puts it overgross, right?

Interesting airplane...
 
the way the FAA wrote the rules, if a plane has ever been operated above the 1320 (or 1430) weight limit, it can't be operated by a sport pilot, ever.

Actually, I think the rule is that if the a/c was certified under part 23, or its predecessor (part 3?) then it can't be a LSA even if it's less than 1320 lbs. Changing the gross weight and recertifying it is certainly possible. Cub Crafters, for instance, has a LSA version of their Carbon Cub, although i think it had to be either an experimental or a kit plane.
 
Actually, I think the rule is that if the a/c was certified under part 23, or its predecessor (part 3?) then it can't be a LSA even if it's less than 1320 lbs. Changing the gross weight and recertifying it is certainly possible.

Nope. There are old J3's, Aeronca's (even military Champs), Taylorcrafts, Ercoupes, Porterfields and Luscombes that all meet the requirements of a sport pilot. Its done all the time, and I've done it. Certain models of each vintage meet the requirements and certain models don't. Buyer beware, people try to advertise planes that can't be operated as a sport pilot as being sport pilot eligible, in an effort to increase the value of the plane. The only requirement for a sport pilot is that the plane meets the requirements in FAR 1.1.

That said, they could try to build the Cessna 120 as an S-LSA, but it would probably have ended up being as much work as the 162 was, and would have had a much more limited market.
 
Great review OP!!! I wish I could get my hands on the controls of a Skycatcher anytime sooner but unfortunately, I have to wait until it comes. Say where did you fly the Skycatcher out of? Was it up for rental or was it for a demo flight?
 
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