First Scare

C150J

Well-Known Member
Had an EXPERIENCED pilot raise all the flaps and get too slow on a go-around today. Relatively short field, trees and rising terrain at both ends. He briefed me on the go-around before hand, too. Got pretty interesting, to say the least. Gave three more hours of dual afterwards to others, so I got back on the horse and feel fine.

Can someone else share a story so I don't feel so alone on this?

Thanks!
J.
CFI
 
Had a CMEL feather the wrong engine after we were intentionally shutting the other down due to a high CHT indication and low oil pressure. Fortunately, I was able to slam the prop control back and the unfeathering accum took it out and the relative wind brought it right back online. We declared and landed..

Scary, Scary!!

PS That was my second in-flight engine failure on a twin - what are the chances!?!?
 
Had a CMEL feather the wrong engine after we were intentionally shutting the other down due to a high CHT indication and low oil pressure. Fortunately, I was able to slam the prop control back and the unfeathering accum took it out and the relative wind brought it right back online. We declared and landed..

Scary, Scary!!

PS That was my second in-flight engine failure on a twin - what are the chances!?!?

Actually I did that a couple weeks ago preparing for my MEI ride.:( Fortunately I noticed my mistake right away and threw the lever forward before it actually feathered. It was kind of embarrasing - first time I'd ever done that and it was the day before my MEI ride.
 
I had a backseater who was on the controls take a round to the arm and chest, at 110kts...at 50' AGL...at night...and I was occupied with something a little other than flying. We ended up at a 60 degree bank, nose down, and severely out of trim. Luckily I had NVGs on instead of our infrared helmet mounted display and was able to recover.

Scared? You bet I was...scared the punks who did this were going to get away with it.
 
I damn near pulled a bone head manuever the other nite. We landed and the main gear spin up didn't activate the spoilers, so if I am the PNF and the engineer calls no spoilers, I am supposed to grab the spoilers and pull them back. Well it's dark and I grab the gear handle (right in fron the spoiler handle, great place for it!) and have that momentary OH CRAP feeling, little realignment of the left side digits and associated appendige and out come the spoilers.

It is so easy to misconfigure the airplane, especially in fast tempo situations. Take that extra second and verify what you are doin, ya'll be careful out there.
 
flying into oshkosh this year during the arrival, my airplane (socata tampico) was somehow gaining on a mooney, this baffles me because 90 kts is the speed listed for final, for the TB-9, thats pretty much full power. We got clost enough to the mooney that his prop wash started rocking our wings. I was navigating (from there, know where things are), the pilot flying started a break out to the south into the restricted helicopter zone. after a momentary yelling match, we re-established final and landed behind the mooney. We seriously wanted to deflate this guy's tired because he didn't read up on his notam for airspeed. The lesson being, defensive flying is key. Train your students for "unprepared" pilots out there. All of this happened by the way after a near 5 hour flight with one stop dodgin thunderstorms at 3 am. it was a blast, i reccomend it to anyone. and that is not sarcastic at all.
 
Re: Dugie

"Dugie, you a regional FO? I didnt know they had FEs."

Holy cow, man, he's a DC8 F/O for ATI...
 
Well, got a "blueish puff" in the cockpit. student put the mixture than throttle, 50 degree steep turn while within 100 ~ 200 AGL...I definitely feel for you. Hope you got some drinks afterward. :nana2:


adreamer
 
I had a backseater who was on the controls take a round to the arm and chest, at 110kts...at 50' AGL...at night...and I was occupied with something a little other than flying. We ended up at a 60 degree bank, nose down, and severely out of trim. Luckily I had NVGs on instead of our infrared helmet mounted display and was able to recover.

Scared? You bet I was...scared the punks who did this were going to get away with it.
Jeesh... the guy make it out okay? The chicken plate worked I hope?
 
Jeesh... the guy make it out okay? The chicken plate worked I hope?

The guy did get sent home early. His arm took the brunt of it and was pretty tore up. The bullet ended up lodged in his chest, but they got it out alright. He's back in flying in Iraq now however. We had chicken plates, Hajji just got off a lucky shot I guess.
 
Had a bit of a scare flying an Alarus with a student. For those of you who fly the Alarus you know the rudder is very effective. Even states in the POH not to use full rudder when doing foward slips. Well I was flying in the pattern with this guy and we were practicing forward slips. This was the first time so I demonstrated one for him and the next time around I talked him through it. So as we were turning base to final I told him to give it some right rudder and left aileron. Well this guy stomped on the pedal like he was trying to kill a snake and rolled us just about completely upside down on final. So I grabbed the controls got us right side up. Meanwhile the small metal first aid kit in the back comes up and smacks me in the back of the head. After that the guy decided to not use so much rudder.
 
I had a student flare too high in a tailwheel aircraft (about 10 ft up). I quickly slammed the throttle full (all 60hp) and pitched back slightly to soften the impact. We bounced once and almost bounced a second time before we had enough airspeed to go around.

NOTHING beats a tailwheel scare.

A guy that I worked with had the flaps stay down in a piece of • 152 when they tried to go around on a hot day in FL. Landing was mandatory. The owner of the aircraft is too cheap to fix these aircraft.
 
I've certainly never been shot at to my knowledge but I did get to ride through a primary student raising the flaps at 50 ft with power at idle while I was riding in the back and watching him and my CFI-instructor. Maintenance had to change all the tires and I think the airplane ended up a little twisted.
 
Hope the student had non-owned renters insurance. . . well wait. . . nevermind, he had a CFI in the plane. Grr, he got off.
 
Last moments of my life!

This was back in 2004. I had just been signed of to be able to fly by myself from my instuctor. I did acouple landings and taxied back to the fbo. Afterwards I was told congrats like 20 times by everyone I knew; each of them saying how smart I was and that they were proud of me. I felt great. The next day I went and did some steep turns and spirals... each of which are some of my favorite tricks of the trade. After a half an hour of doing that, I decided I would make my way over the ocean and do some quick stalls before heading back. On my 2nd or 3rd stall, to my great suprise, I guess that I finally knew what a uncontrolled spin was. It all started at around 2,000 feet above the clear blue ocean. I listened to the AWOS from the airport closest to me and pointed straight into the wind. I set up for a power-on stall just how my instructor had taught me. I applied full power and pulled the yoke back. I guess I may have been alittle too excited and could have not been paying attention to my turn coordinator ball. I was not coordinated... While looking at my gauges and peeking at the blue ocean, my left wing dropped and the plane started spinning very quickly. I pulled back the power, and because I was so freaked out - and truly did not know the negative effects of using the alierons in a stall, I put all the right alieron I could into this small plane. Nothing HAPPENED, and I was glad of it. That could have made it worse. Anyways, I was FREAKING OUT. After about 6 seconds and four spiral rotations, I honestly thought that nothing I could have done would of saved me. At about 1300 agl I realized if I didn't do something quickly I was going to have it in for me. So I just kicked the right rudder and after a second or two I finally pulled out of the spin. From then on I flew straight back to my airport, landed and went home. All the while I was shaking and just scared of what just happened. That night, I read my book on spinning and to my suprise, I found out what needed to be done when involved in an uncontrolled spin... something my CFI did not explain to me. In retrospect, I believe my lack of knowledge could have been from the fact that I switched instructors around the time that I learned stalls and stall techniques.

The very next day, after mentally preparing myself that I was going to be O.K. when I went flying, I drove to the FBO for some more solo time. When I got there, to my suprise, I found that the plane I was going to take up had a scheduled check up- not that I was aware or anything. Anyways, the flight school's owner came over and explained that I should take the other C-152; which I have only flown once, maybe twice. This was not a big deal, all his planes were basically the same. Except one small, but big factor, the replacement plane, 948, had standard tanks, while the plane I have been using had long range tanks... but again I did not know this. So like usual, I went out to the plane and did all my checks and finally checked the fuel. I took my fuel stick and checked the fuel... both visually by my eyes and by reading the fuel stick. I remember taking out the fuel stick/hawk and it read "5." Totally enough fuel for acouple of hours of flying... in 26L, the long range plane that I was accustomed of flying. Nevertheless, the fuel was good in my eyes so I went up and did some steep banks and all that stuff. Besides stalls, I really felt like I was getting the hang of this solo thing. Getting back in the pattern, I decided I was going to make a few touch and gos. I did one. Two. Three. Four. Turning final on my 5th landing, I decided I was going to make this one a full stop. I had enough time and enough fuel*, but I decided I had spent enough money that day. I taxied back to the FBO and drove home after talking to the owner again, explaining that the flight went great. (He did not know about yesterday's incident.) Later that night, I got a call from the owner on my house phone. This suprised me, he always waited to talk to me in person about business. We played the whole, 'how are you' game, but then he asked me something totally irrelevant. "How much fuel was in 948 when you flew today?" I told him that there was like 15 gallons, roughly, according to my stick which read "5" for the fuel level. He then explained that when the fuel truck came to fill up the plane, the employee put in like 24.2 gallons out of the 26 gallon tank... 1.5 of which were unusable... . . . If you are quick at math, you would have already fiqured out that I had .3 gallons of useable fuel left when I shut off the engine that day. I was shocked when he told me this, that was a huge deal. I may have had to use my emergency landing training that I more or less deemed useless... after all, the whole stigma of that could never happen to me comes into play sometimes... back on the subject, I had .3 gallons left. Putting it into picture, the C-152 needs like 1.2 gallons for taxi and 1.9 gallons for take off to 2000 feet agl. If I hadn't made number 5 a full stop, I would have made my touch and go, and at like 600 feet the engine would have stopped. By this time I would be to high to land on the runway, and to low to turn back. I would have had to land straight... and if i would have done that, I am pretty sure I would have had to land on either houses or on parked cars... So I am extremely glad that I didn't.

Now most of you are trying to understand how I am still alive today being a "stupid" young pilot as it is. Well let me explain. Firstly, my instructors never explained to me what I should do if i ever get into and uncontrolled spin... I know now. Secondly, my instructor did not know I was going to take the standard tank airplane, so he never explained that 26L was long range, and the new plane 948 was standard; and the lucky 5 on my fuel rod would have told me that I needed more fuel. So in my defence, in both cases I did not know both of the factors that contributed to my amazingly stupid/scary stories. To this day, I ask so many questions about the plane I am going to fly, and make sure I know every aspect of it before I think about taking it up. Just remember CFIs, make sure your students know everything needed for a safe flight. Don't assume that they do like my instructors did... Assuming makes an ASS out of U and ME... Be smart; use my story as an example of what could have gone wrong when a young, 15 hour pilot, is not informed of certain aspects that could lead to an emergency. Afterall, if a student pilot's CFI doesn't tell him what he needs to know, who is?

I am prepared for a lot of remarks on this... enjoy.
 
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