Fighter Jets Force Down a Cessna

He could have flown an A319 for a a whole hour and 17 minutes without talking... But a Cessna 425 in uncontrolled airspace?..... NO WAY!
 
He could have flown an A319 for a a whole hour and 17 minutes without talking... But a Cessna 425 in uncontrolled airspace?..... NO WAY!
Was he in uncontrolled? I just pulled out my Jacksonville sectional and Brooksville IS right on the edge of Tampa's B airspace. He could have busted that if he went south. (The line of B goes right through the Brooksville airport.)
 
What's the floor of the Bravo out there, 3,000 feet? Or 6,000 feet? I can't tell from the chart I'm looking at.
 
Let me get this straight here.

The pilot broke no laws. He won't be charged with anything.

And yet, they sent fighters up to force him down? Uh, exactly what did he do wrong? He went flying even though an instructor didn't think he should?

That's cause to scramble fighters these days?


Exactly...and a NORDO Airbus with a whole bunch of people on it doesn't get intercepted....gotta love the people in charge..
 
Doesnt matter if he was in E/G airspace or not. English proficient is a requirement for a US license so if he isnt, then he isnt operating legally under his airmen certificate.
 
Doesnt matter if he was in E/G airspace or not. English proficient is a requirement for a US license so if he isnt, then he isnt operating legally under his airmen certificate.

Well it would be up to the DE who gave him the license and agreed that he was english proficient
 
Well it would be up to the DE who gave him the license and agreed that he was english proficient
If he required a translator to talk to the CFI I highly doubt he would have been found proficient.

On another note, I was talking to someone that works at MacDill yesterday. He says the FAA reported that the plane was "stolen" and flown by a foreign national. It would make sense that they would be concerned in that case regardless of airspace.
 
+1

Are the French now handing out tickets to the non english proficient?

If so, WTF!??!?! :dunno:

I happened to meet the gentleman in question. At the time, he was flying under his FAA ceritficate. Ask FSDO how he got it in the first place.:dunno:

Something is missing from the story.

Apparently, the instructor flew with him and noted deficiencies, that's why he suggested the gentleman not fly.
 
I'm not sure if it's exactly a worldwide requirement, but I think that ICAO contracting states require pilots to meet ICAO level 4 standards.

As an aside, I've met pilots who have met this requirement. Either level 4 is too low (there are 6 levels) or they just print it on the cert once you pass the checkride.
 
Got to love the French... :Sarcasm: aren't they the reason for the English Proficient and SIC type ratings?

If nothing else they'll throw 91.13 at him.
 
Did he NEED to talk to ATC? Sounds like he might not have had any need to contact ATC if it was VFR and not in D/C/B.
True

The question would be does he need to be English proficient. If i understand it correctly he owned the airplane, and it was N registered what was he even screwing around with an instructor if he was current and had a FAA ticket or (converted ticket)?
 
Apparently, the instructor flew with him and noted deficiencies, that's why he suggested the gentleman not fly.
That doesn't explain the F-16s. If they sent F-16s after every pilot whose english was poor and who had an instructor who thought they shouldn't be flying, then there'd be a lot more F-16 activity around certain flight schools in Florida.
 
That doesn't explain the F-16s. If they sent F-16s after every pilot whose english was poor and who had an instructor who thought they shouldn't be flying, then there'd be a lot more F-16 activity around certain flight schools in Florida.

F-16s would be parked at DVT if that were the case.
 
I guess they'd have to prove that he was endangering "the life or property of another" :D

THe problem is that the FAA doesn't define reckeless and careless operation of an aircraft. So they make it up as they go along.

I too am interested in how he got a US license if he didn't speak aviation English.

There has to me a lot more to this story.
 
That doesn't explain the F-16s. If they sent F-16s after every pilot whose english was poor and who had an instructor who thought they shouldn't be flying, then there'd be a lot more F-16 activity around certain flight schools in Florida.

He flew with somebody who had serious concerns about his ability as a pilot as well as his difficulty with English. It was recommended that he not fly the aircraft, and he chose to ignore the recommendation.
 
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