DropTank
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Bacon.
FFT4345 DEN 5/8
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DropTank
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Fixtur
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Murdoughnut
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This poor woman followed instructions and left all of her belongings. Check out how that ls going for her…
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1t9poqz/passenger_experience_of_frontier_crash/
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1t9poqz/passenger_experience_of_frontier_crash/
This one is a lot to unpack, because there are factors that both sides of the equation could take lessons from.
As a pax, it’s great that someone actually followed instructions to leave major bags behind. I say major bags, in the sense of things that are in the overhead or take any kind of time to grab; this isnt counting things like a purse, or small waist bag or whatnot. Small personal bags that one should probably keep things like car keys, walllet, ID/passport, medicines etc, on ones person or in their possession in a small personal purse-size bag if not on their actual person. These important items should be kept close at hand if merely for them not to get lost or stolen, much less left behind in an emergency egress situation.
On the airline side, Frontier should have been getting clearance as quick as they can to get bags, both carryon in the overheads as well as in the cargo compartment, off the jet and back to their owners. In this particular accident, the passenger bags, checked or carryon, are not germane to nor have any factor relationship, to the factors of this accident. There’s no reason they couldn’t have gotten offloaded without affecting the accident scene of the aircraft (the right engine area) once the situation was stabilized and the emergency portion over. A quick call by the airline to the NTSB or the local FAA office, explaining the need for this and how it’s no effect to the investigation, should’ve been made by the airline; and easily accepted by the authorities. I don’t find fault with Frontier for not having infant maintenace items on hand in immediate stock, or basic medicine for every person’s possible ailments; however these items shouldn’t have been too difficult to acquire from outside the airport either when it became known to customer service that they were needed, and someone in need of specific critical medicine could get transported to a hospital if they are in any danger without them. Hence why these items are things that are best kept on one’s person, in their pockets or in a small bag, versus in luggage in the overhead or in checked baggage.
Hopefully some lessons learned here for everyone, on these third order effects of a proper evacuation once the emergency portion is over.
I’m going to go ahead and say “Nah, you probably didn’t”
SeanD
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WTF are these people even doing that close to an engine that just exploded? Is that a child wrapped up in her blanky? Its like these dopes are grazing around at an art museum. I seriously need to get off of this planet.
Soul Brotha'
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It’s for the upcoming lawsuit and how they will never be the same.
Oh you know THAT’S coming.
I don’t blame them, I’ll bet there’s at least 50 lawyers trawling social media looking for “survivor stories” from the harrowing collision that are promising a payoff.
When I got named in a lawsuit by a passenger who was injured during boarding back at Skyway, one plaintiff was obviously the passenger in question, but the other one was from someome traumatized by the sight of someone slipping on the ice. True story.
GroundPilot
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They going to sue the captain for not avoiding the person
CFI A&P
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So uh, what is the primary purpose in having thermal image recordings at the runway? Could this be for wildlife management & mitigation ?
Maybe? Maybe also for confirming what the ASDE is showing on dark nights in the remote runway areas? Maybe both?
knot4u
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I saw something earlier today that said KDIA has a 53 square mile footprint. It's bigger than some cities and it was built away from people on purpose so wildlife would be an issue, not to mention it's supposed to be a secure area so tall fences and thermal cameras don't seem far fetched. It's almost 25 miles of fence line to monitor and secure. People are smart and where there's a will there's a way. I'm unsure of a better option unless you want to create a DMZ around airports with manned gun towers to disable trespassers? I'm unsure if that video is even authentic, it's hard to tell what's real and what isn't these days.
Skåning
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The whole video is on the Crazy Effing Videos subreddit looks like it rotated and the nose wheel was off the ground. It's not graphic but sad none the less. Could have taken out 230+ people.
Roger Roger
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Doesn’t that imply past V1?
Skåning
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Footage Released Of The Person Who Climbed A Fence At Denver Airport Then Gets Sucked Into A Plane Engine
An individual climbed a fence at the Denver airport and walked onto the runway right in front of a Frontier Airlines jet. The pilot couldn't stop in time and the person was pulled into the engine, causing an engine fire. First responders reported finding "limbs on the runway" and said the person...
That's kinda what it looked like to me
ASpilot2be
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There's also the possibility they saw the person and tried to rotate early to miss them.
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While I get what you're saying, and I'm not here to judge the crew as their actions worked out for the 230 passengers and crew.
Also, and side note that this event didn't register on the FAA ASIAS summary page.