FedEx TA (2026)

BobDDuck

Island Bus Driver
So, what's the thoughts from the Purple guys? It looks ok from the outside looking in, but I'm not familiar enough with all of the different abbreviations and overrides to know for real. Also, looks like the 3 options on the retirement plans solved the major gripes from last time around but I don't know if they are acceptable options for the group as a whole.
 
So, what's the thoughts from the Purple guys? It looks ok from the outside looking in, but I'm not familiar enough with all of the different abbreviations and overrides to know for real. Also, looks like the 3 options on the retirement plans solved the major gripes from last time around but I don't know if they are acceptable options for the group as a whole.
Still gotta dig through it completely. The angry mob will be pissed no matter what, and just trust one guys ChatGPT analysis. I don't like the 18 month 3% pay increase timeline. The 3 retirement options were a surprise to me at least. We'll see. We are a VERY fractured group facing a management group that has a very different path than what many have grown accustomed to.
 
No pension for new guys. Guys on the list at DOS still have one and it's looks like it went up nicely. I know there are different opinions on here about pensions but it's a big deal at Brown. It's what made it possible for me to get out at 60. I wasn't very smart with my retirement planning. Wasn't aggressive enough with my 401A and didn't do the 401K. Luckily, I put my money into real estate with good timing there, so it's pretty much a wash in the end. My financial advisor now has me pretty aggressive for my age but his arugment is if I can live off the pension (which I can), then the pension represents the conservative side of my investment profile.
 
I just finished reading the scope changes and the new formula for wet leasing will definitely require some thorough explanations before I make up my mind. I wish new hires at least got two of the options for retirement. With how long I have left, I will have to pick option 2 or 3 and accept the pension soft freeze. I will have to talk to my financial advisor to see which one is best. Scope will be the deciding factor as the rest I can live with even if its not everything I want.
 
No pension for new guys. Guys on the list at DOS still have one and it's looks like it went up nicely. I know there are different opinions on here about pensions but it's a big deal at Brown. It's what made it possible for me to get out at 60. I wasn't very smart with my retirement planning. Wasn't aggressive enough with my 401A and didn't do the 401K. Luckily, I put my money into real estate with good timing there, so it's pretty much a wash in the end. My financial advisor now has me pretty aggressive for my age but his arugment is if I can live off the pension (which I can), then the pension represents the conservative side of my investment profile.

A pension for "new guys" would be insane.

Good luck to those at FedEx with the next steps.
 
I can assure you it is not, not for the • we went through during covid. I'm not sure there would ever be a contract presented that would however.
Agreed…. This feels like a slap in the face… less so than the last TA but still. It’s a job… but a facade of the company I hired onto.
 
Where do you feel like it falls flat like the Earth? I honestly haven't been paying much attention, other than what's in the group chat.
QOL items (rather a lack of improvements), retirement I’m not a fan of 3 options… I think we all need to be on the same plan, changes to scope and wet leasing I’m not a fan of as we (as a union) struggle to enforce our current contract, pay increase percentage and frequency, limited mediation sessions for discrepancies, vacation buy back increase to 100%, the verbiage used within the contract is loose and open to “interpretation “ in areas where I’d be happier if it were not open, recovery payment feels small and I would have rather had retro like other carriers instead of an arbitrary number.

It’s not all miserable but after having lived through covid here and been subjected to the company’s indifference, the company’s manipulation of the SAM to force us into 4a2b(c), the recent change in PBM that now effectively cut my pay 15k a year, as well as the optimization of trip efficiency being jacked way up combined with the endless revisions/extensions, and now very much lacking support with hotels and transportation on the road… god help you if you have to expense it and file an expense report (clue; there is a good chance it’s coming out of your paycheck), and we are still flying in close proximity to Iranian airspace and through Afghanistan’s airspace.

So yeah… all things considered it doesn’t feel like the pilot group “won” anything… at best a draw… which sucks when you factor in that back in 2018/2019 I looked forward to coming to work and now I can’t wait for a trip to end.
 
QOL items (rather a lack of improvements), retirement I’m not a fan of 3 options… I think we all need to be on the same plan, changes to scope and wet leasing I’m not a fan of as we (as a union) struggle to enforce our current contract, pay increase percentage and frequency, limited mediation sessions for discrepancies, vacation buy back increase to 100%, the verbiage used within the contract is loose and open to “interpretation “ in areas where I’d be happier if it were not open, recovery payment feels small and I would have rather had retro like other carriers instead of an arbitrary number.

It’s not all miserable but after having lived through covid here and been subjected to the company’s indifference, the company’s manipulation of the SAM to force us into 4a2b(c), the recent change in PBM that now effectively cut my pay 15k a year, as well as the optimization of trip efficiency being jacked way up combined with the endless revisions/extensions, and now very much lacking support with hotels and transportation on the road… god help you if you have to expense it and file an expense report (clue; there is a good chance it’s coming out of your paycheck), and we are still flying in close proximity to Iranian airspace and through Afghanistan’s airspace.

So yeah… all things considered it doesn’t feel like the pilot group “won” anything… at best a draw… which sucks when you factor in that back in 2018/2019 I looked forward to coming to work and now I can’t wait for a trip to end.
Thanks. Those all make sense.
 
QOL items (rather a lack of improvements), retirement I’m not a fan of 3 options… I think we all need to be on the same plan, changes to scope and wet leasing I’m not a fan of as we (as a union) struggle to enforce our current contract, pay increase percentage and frequency, limited mediation sessions for discrepancies, vacation buy back increase to 100%, the verbiage used within the contract is loose and open to “interpretation “ in areas where I’d be happier if it were not open, recovery payment feels small and I would have rather had retro like other carriers instead of an arbitrary number.

It’s not all miserable but after having lived through covid here and been subjected to the company’s indifference, the company’s manipulation of the SAM to force us into 4a2b(c), the recent change in PBM that now effectively cut my pay 15k a year, as well as the optimization of trip efficiency being jacked way up combined with the endless revisions/extensions, and now very much lacking support with hotels and transportation on the road… god help you if you have to expense it and file an expense report (clue; there is a good chance it’s coming out of your paycheck), and we are still flying in close proximity to Iranian airspace and through Afghanistan’s airspace.

So yeah… all things considered it doesn’t feel like the pilot group “won” anything… at best a draw… which sucks when you factor in that back in 2018/2019 I looked forward to coming to work and now I can’t wait for a trip to end.
Just one note, the 100% vacation buy back was a rumor. It's between 40-60%. To raise it above 60% requires concurrence with the association.

With the retirement, i strongly disagree (;)). We can't agree on most things as a pilot group, to think we are going to magically agree on one retirement plan is a pipe dream. What i do know is many of the guys that i enjoyed flying with have retired with no retirement gains. This TA solves that. I long for the days of a 50% income replacement pension as i do MD11s flying into Kai Tak. Neither are in the cards for me.
 
Just one note, the 100% vacation buy back was a rumor. It's between 40-60%. To raise it above 60% requires concurrence with the association.

With the retirement, i strongly disagree (;)). We can't agree on most things as a pilot group, to think we are going to magically agree on one retirement plan is a pipe dream. What i do know is many of the guys that i enjoyed flying with have retired with no retirement gains. This TA solves that. I long for the days of a 50% income replacement pension as i do MD11s flying into Kai Tak. Neither are in the cards for me.
Thank you for the correction. I’m on vacation, trying to prep for a new born, and figure this contract stuff out so at the very least I’ve been frazzled… so I very much appreciate it.

I can agree that the pilot group can’t agree on most things but the two big reasons I came to this place will be gone if this indeed passes… 4a2b and the pension. I feel grimy voluntarily voting away the pension especially trading it for 9% contribution but I also understand that there will probably be no further improvements to the legacy plan forthwith which will just be a degradation of purchasing power in the future.

I just feel so “meh… that’s it?” about it.
 
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