Falcon dual eng failure

How many airframes have been lost?
Due to the fuel shut off valve? None that I know of. That one is more down stream than it sounds like on the falcon. If I remember right you wouldn't even get the engine started on the PC12 with it closed.
 
Due to the fuel shut off valve? None that I know of. That one is more down stream than it sounds like on the falcon. If I remember right you wouldn't even get the engine started on the PC12 with it closed.
From the diagram posted these manually controlled valves are only manipulated from inside the cabin, the valves if everything went sideways (if you pulled the fire handle) are downstream. But someone mentioned it must be a MX issue. Sorry if that makes me a little cranky.
 
Easy to get to? Buried beneath the carpet? Okay. How may Falcons that you flew had the tool stored behind the pilots seat, and if it was did you know why it was there? Those valves weren't put there for MX. That's pilot stuff.

Yes, easy to get to. Just pull up the carpet in the dropped aisle and push it to the side. Not hard at all. The ones that I flew every day had that tool and the crash axe in their proper places, even the tool to adjust the heat valve at the back of the cabin. Yes, I knew and still know how to use them.

The valves actually do come in handy when changing a transfer pump.

Who pissed in your cheerios? Hope you wake up in a better mood tomorrow.
 
Yes, easy to get to. Just pull up the carpet in the dropped aisle and push it to the side. Not hard at all. The ones that I flew every day had that tool and the crash axe in their proper places, even the tool to adjust the heat valve at the back of the cabin. Yes, I knew and still know how to use them.

The valves actually do come in handy when changing a transfer pump.

Who pissed in your cheerios? Hope you wake up in a better mood tomorrow.
Ignore him. He's mad at the world and needs to tell everybody about it.
 
The damned things have been flying for what, 50 years now? If this was a fundamental design flaw, you'd think more of them would have crashed. Er, I mean, specifically because of that flaw. I recognize that they do seem to be a bit of an aluminum waterfall in general, but one suspects that might be more down to who's doing what with them, etc.
 
My old shop had a number of Falcon 20s. I was told by someone in the know, that when they are converted to freighters, a number of large system modifications need to occur. Besides cutting a door, many systems have emergency features on the back wall. So if you all are looking at a factory fuel diagram, it could've been changed when the door got cut in it.
 
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