Failed Commercial single checkride.

That's badass Krieger haha. bet you freaked those people out. So when i go for my commercial single ( i already have my multi) what am i going to have to do? all the manooves?

Check the PTS for the maneuvers you might be tested on. My CSEL add-on was real simple, 20 minute ground over the systems, short flight consisting of steep turns, chandelles, and a few landings. I think it was 1.4 on the hobbs, but most of the time was spent getting away from the class B and busy class D airport. No xtry/diversion since I had already done it on me ME ride.
 
While I'm still a student pilot right now, I went through something similar when I got my A/P....you just have to suck it up and go on if aviation is really something you want to do.
 
There are a couple ways.

(1) Go military first.

- or -

(2) Go to a 141 school that has self examining authority.

If you fail a 141 checkride, it still goes on record. Or at least that's my understanding of it unless rules have changed within the last few years. And even at some regionals they often ask if you have failed a Stage Check before and in Part 141 schools, there can be quite a few of those stage checks...
 
I failed my CFI single on eights on pylons, still can't really do those damn things very well.

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The commercial check ride is a whole lot of precision and not a whole lot of instruments. I see a lot of schools try to teach this in 10 hours and in my opinion it is just not enough time.

It's also a very out of date test these days and it is out of the natural sequence of things. That can make is more difficult for some pilots. Especially those that are really good with instruments or glass cockpits.

I found it odd that the whole commercial training and check ride is VFR with almost no instruments.

Yet, most commercial pilots fly IFR and use instruments. It never did make sense, to me, to test a commercial pilot on VFR when we normally don't fly VFR. But that is the way the FAA has it set up for the past 50 years.

With all of that being said, my opinion is that the commercial checkride is just one ride to get out of the way. You won't be flying passengers around doing lazy 8's or chandelles. However you will be asked to demonstrate at least one of these maneuvers on your commercial checkride. I used to say the commercial checkride is doing all of the things that you are not supposed to do on your private checkride. Some say it's a lot of fun. I don't agree.

Best advice I can give you, is to slow down a bit. Take about 30 days and really get this stuff. Don't rush it. The more you practice, the more confidence you will have. You probably won't use any of it again in real flying, but you will get through it.

Also once your feel you are about 80% ready, you might consider taking a week and finishing up at Shebles. They will drill the missing stuff into your thick head pretty well.

Joe
 
If you fail a 141 checkride, it still goes on record. Or at least that's my understanding of it unless rules have changed within the last few years. And even at some regionals they often ask if you have failed a Stage Check before and in Part 141 schools, there can be quite a few of those stage checks...

Take a look at this AOPA site and check the bottom part of the article.

http://www.aopa.org/careerpilot/articles/showarticle.cfm?section=CareerAdvisor&id=7452

If asked about failed stage checks or anything of that nature I believe it would be more a matter of personal honesty than a matter of someone being able to find a document to show that a check had not been approved.
 
The commercial check ride is a whole lot of precision and not a whole lot of instruments. I see a lot of schools try to teach this in 10 hours and in my opinion it is just not enough time.

It's also a very out of date test these days and it is out of the natural sequence of things. That can make is more difficult for some pilots. Especially those that are really good with instruments or glass cockpits.

I found it odd that the whole commercial training and check ride is VFR with almost no instruments.

Yet, most commercial pilots fly IFR and use instruments. It never did make sense, to me, to test a commercial pilot on VFR when we normally don't fly VFR. But that is the way the FAA has it set up for the past 50 years.

With all of that being said, my opinion is that the commercial checkride is just one ride to get out of the way. You won't be flying passengers around doing lazy 8's or chandelles. However you will be asked to demonstrate at least one of these maneuvers on your commercial checkride. I used to say the commercial checkride is doing all of the things that you are not supposed to do on your private checkride. Some say it's a lot of fun. I don't agree.

Best advice I can give you, is to slow down a bit. Take about 30 days and really get this stuff. Don't rush it. The more you practice, the more confidence you will have. You probably won't use any of it again in real flying, but you will get through it.

Also once your feel you are about 80% ready, you might consider taking a week and finishing up at Shebles. They will drill the missing stuff into your thick head pretty well.

Joe
Thanks Joe!! That makes a lot of sense. Its funny you mention Sheble, I have been studying up on the notes they provided and created a nice folder to look over the material. I also have been saving up money to take the combined commercial single and commercial multi course. its around 5,000 dollars after all the checkride fees and so on.If you have any other pointers or can lead me in the right direction of what to expect at sheble,the main things they are really critical on,I would greatly appreciate it!!
 
You can't learn how to pick yourself up if you haven't learned how to fall down first.

Show me a pilot who has never failed a checkride and I will show you a pretty damned good pilot, and a good critical thinker, but someone who probably doesn't know much about desire and ambition. Show me a pilot who has failed a checkride or two and I'll show you a pretty damned good pilot, a good critical thinker, and someone who knows alot about desire and ambition.
 
You can't learn how to pick yourself up if you haven't learned how to fall down first.

Show me a pilot who has never failed a checkride and I will show you a pretty damned good pilot, and a good critical thinker, but someone who probably doesn't know much about desire and ambition. Show me a pilot who has failed a checkride or two and I'll show you a pretty damned good pilot, a good critical thinker, and someone who knows alot about desire and ambition.
I resent this statement ;)
 
After the first 1500 hours primary flight training checkrides lose their predictiveness for success anyway. I've only ever been asked about these checkride failures at regional-level interviews. I have been asked about 121/135 failures though (have none.)

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