Factual info from ERj145 off Runway in YOW Sept 2011.

adk said:
My theory is that if the plane had thrust reversers or the the runway had grooves this plane would have stayed on the runway.
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Really hard to tell, I have gotten a 145 stopped with just TRs. It took about 10,000 feet from touch down to full stop.
 
Yeah in the erj I dump the buckets and max brakes. I don't care about passenger comfort, I'm getting off at the first high speed exit.
 
What's the ERJ spoiler deploy and brake logic? I remember a pilot who told me the ERJ was not an easy stopper. Something about right after landing you could hit the brakes and nothing would happen for [several seconds?] until some conditions and such were met, and then the deceleration would happen.
 
I think its 25+ knot wheel speed. With a super soft landing like this may have been, the WoW switches can be temperamental. So this was one of the TSA ERJs without TR?
 
Kingairer said:
I think its 25+ knot wheel speed. With a super soft landing like this may have been, the WoW switches can be temperamental. So this was one of the TSA ERJs without TR?
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I didn't think any if theirs had buckets.
 
cencal83406 said:
Mashing the brakes and going full reverse isn't going to get you to the gate faster.
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Oh yes it will. Miss the taxiway at IND or CMH and it adds an extra 2 minutes or so to the gate.

I can think of a few scenarios at ORD where not making a certain exit will send you on the scenic tour.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
What's the ERJ spoiler deploy and brake logic? I remember a pilot who told me the ERJ was not an easy stopper. Something about right after landing you could hit the brakes and nothing would happen for [several seconds?] until some conditions and such were met, and then the deceleration would happen.
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It depends on the brakes, the ERJ can have carbon or steel. The ones with carbon stop on a dime the ones with steel brakes suck.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
What's the ERJ spoiler deploy and brake logic? I remember a pilot who told me the ERJ was not an easy stopper. Something about right after landing you could hit the brakes and nothing would happen for [several seconds?] until some conditions and such were met, and then the deceleration would happen.
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Spoiler logic was something like.......Wheel speed over 25KTS plus retarded thrust levers = automatic spoiler deployment.

I have no idea what the braking logic is that you describe. There was no waiting for brakes.

The plane could stop on a dime, the brakes were awesome (I guess not if you're hydroplaning). If you stood on the brakes after landing you'd be thrown against your shoulder harness. Sh$t, if you braked hard early you'd be slowed before the reversers had time to spool up.
 
SFCC/UND said:
Been to Chicago? The erj brakes when contaminated don't stop very well. So got to dump the reverses and slam on the brakes. Otherwise going to be a long taxi :)
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And....?

Stupid reasoning. Have you ever been there? The runways are a tad on the long side, no need to SLAM on the brakes.
 
Baronman said:
Spoiler logic was something like.......Wheel speed over 25KTS plus retarded thrust levers = automatic spoiler deployment.

I have no idea what the braking logic is that you describe. There was no waiting for brakes.

The plane could stop on a dime, the brakes were awesome (I guess not if you're hydroplaning). If you stood on the brakes after landing you'd be thrown against your shoulder harness. Sh$t, if you braked hard early you'd be slowed before the reversers had time to spool up.
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I think he's thinking of the Q400.


SFCC/UND said:
Been to Chicago? The erj brakes when contaminated don't stop very well. So got to dump the reverses and slam on the brakes. Otherwise going to be a long taxi :)
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I didn't know Trans States flew to Midway.
 
ClarkGriswold said:
And....?

Stupid reasoning. Have you ever been there? The runways are a tad on the long side, no need to SLAM on the brakes.
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Have I been there? I'm sorry being a trans states pilot we don't fly into ord. I just heard if you get off 28c at tango, they'll let you cut across, instead of going to golf golf. Saves about 10 minutes in taxi time.
 
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