FAA Proposal for ATP/1500 Rule

Ya, the 135 and 91k time counts.

The university aviation degree program cutting 500 hours is beyond stupid. Way to neuter the intent of the atp rule.

Also, any idea when they're looking to have this go into effect? I might need to go spend an hour in a seminole with an examiner... didn't really want to pay for it myself.
 
z987k said:
Ya, the 135 and 91k time counts.

The university aviation degree program cutting 500 hours is beyond stupid. Way to neuter the intent of the atp rule.

Also, any idea when they're looking to have this go into effect? I might need to go spend an hour in a seminole with an examiner... didn't really want to pay for it myself.
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Here's the problem though, your average AmFlight, Martex, Encore, Freight Runners, etc. etc. doesn't require an ATP to operate as captain of a multi-turbine airplane. Even a 1900, or a Metro do not require ATPs, only turbojet ops, ops with airplanes with more than 10 seats, and multi-engine commuter ops count. So, Amflight in the 1900/SA227 doesn't count, Cape Air in the 402 does count.
 
Shiek Yiboudi said:
Fresh out kids:


SIC Part 121: Must hold ATP + Type Rating OR "Frozen ATPL" + Type Rating.

PIC Part 121: Must hold ATP + Type Rating + 1,000 hrs Air Carrier Ops (SIC)
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I couldn't find it in the text (but I'm on a phone so it's hard to search) but is this an actual for real type rating or just a made up SIC type? I'm hoping they are going to make the airlines type everybody, but I doubt it.
 
So, since i have all the requirements for atp now i should probably just rent a plane to do it? If I'm understanding this correctly, you need to take a course to get an atp license now?

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Couldn't I just go to one of those ATP Training classes and get a frozen ATP with 1000 hours even though all my licenses are 61. I am really confused by this document.

Anyone?
 
purpel said:
Couldn't I just go to one of those ATP Training classes and get a frozen ATP with 1000 hours even though all my licenses are 61. I am really confused by this document.

Anyone?
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I think to fall under the 1000hr category you have had to had graduated from an accredited university (Riddle, UND, Purdue) with a aviation-related major and completed your instrument and commercial thru their affiliated training schools.

I'm confused because I did exactly that, but transfer from ERAU's Daytona campus to Worldwide (online classes). The degree is still Aeronautical Science.

But I was reading to new FAR's they are changing and you need something like 325 XC. It's all at the bottom of that document.

Ahhhhhh, so confusing. This is going to be a mess.
 
BobDDuck said:
I couldn't find it in the text (but I'm on a phone so it's hard to search) but is this an actual for real type rating or just a made up SIC type? I'm hoping they are going to make the airlines type everybody, but I doubt it.
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How you been? Technically the SIC type is a restriction on a type just like circle to land VMC. I asked s. s. in Dayton and the company is planning on doing a ATP but not a type as a full type has to be left seat due to the tiller.
This part cut from the nprm makes me think it is status quo:
An SIC in part 121 air carrier operations is not currently required to have an
aircraft type rating for the aircraft flown in revenue service; however, an SIC may be
required to have a pilot type rating under §61.55 for flag operations.
 
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