FAA OKs iPad for Pilots’ Charts

I thought I would miss the paper charts but after using the iPad it makes cockpit management so easy. Less clutter. It's the wave of the future.
 
It's the wave of the future.


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Why do you feel that way? I find the en route and sectional charts on ForeFlight on my iPad great to work with and much better than fumbling around with paper.

Foreflight is a good app for approach plates, because the valid date is listed on the pdf just as it would with the paper version. My problem with all the pilot apps out there is with the enroute charts. Yes foreflight lets you see the update. However thats the update shown in the app, not on the chart itself. There is no way to verify, or prove i have the current enroute or sectional chart. Additionally i would like to see SUA information times and altitudes like the sectional charts display. These apps are great for planning! They also have so much potential in the years to come, i still fly having my paper charts for enroute.
 
plates are great enroute charts not so much

At on old job we Fujitusus with the Jepp app, and I'd agree they were worthless for enroute. Where I work now we have all paper charts, but I put foreflight on my iPad, with a Gns 5870 Bluetooth gps receiver, and it works fantastic. So much better than a paper enroute chart. It shows your position right on the chart (hi enroute, low enroute, or sectional), you can enter your route and it overlays it on the charts, when you get a short cut you just touch the station you were cleared to and hit the direct button, and it adjusts your overlaid route. Works really well.


So now the iPad is in short supply, is the FAA going to require the exact same testing for the ipad2?
 
Why do you feel that way? I find the en route and sectional charts on ForeFlight on my iPad great to work with and much better than fumbling around with paper.

Well, you're wierd then! I agree with Bumb, panning around to find something on a low or high chart is a major PITA.
 
Curious if they will come to the Kindle or a "Jepp Plate Reader".

I just bought a Kindle and in full freaking daylight the text is plainer then the day.

From what I have read, you get glare problems with the I-Pad.

Personally, similarly to the way we have gyros to back up the modern electronics, it makes sense to go electric for plates, but require the paper for backup.
 
With fore flight you just type in the fix you are looking for and it centers it on the screen, no panning required.
Not really. En route, if you already have a route in place, the only way to "search" for a fix is to clear the route. You're really left with panning.

But unlike mshunter, I find panning the ForeFlight iPad display far easier than searching for the same thing on a paper chart.

It's really one of those "different strokes" issues. You start with a personal preference for paper and you'll find all sorts of reasons why they're better. Me, I'm still experimenting but I tend toward the iPad for charts and paper for other things.
 
Personally, similarly to the way we have gyros to back up the modern electronics, it makes sense to go electric for plates, but require the paper for backup.
Why require the paper? The FAA approvals don't and most of the Part 91 folks I've heard on the subject (who actually USE this stuff) may start with paper backup but soon get rid of it.

And what gyro backup? That depends on the airplane. As I recall, the G1000 172 has a traditional gyro backup; the DA-40 does not.
 
Not really. En route, if you already have a route in place, the only way to "search" for a fix is to clear the route. You're really left with panning.

But unlike mshunter, I find panning the ForeFlight iPad display far easier than searching for the same thing on a paper chart.

It's really one of those "different strokes" issues. You start with a personal preference for paper and you'll find all sorts of reasons why they're better. Me, I'm still experimenting but I tend toward the iPad for charts and paper for other things.

True, but that's an easy work around. I enter the route and favorite it. Then it's simply clear the route, type the fix name, find what you are looking for, then either reselect the route from the favorites list or enter your new clearance from the fix you just found.

Though how it seems to work out, " you're cleared direct 'blah blah blah' then 'yada yada yada'"

"could you spell 'blah blah blah" enter it in the fms, then if motivated, enter the route into foreflight
 
And what gyro backup? That depends on the airplane. As I recall, the G1000 172 has a traditional gyro backup; the DA-40 does not.

Since when? The current Diamond website pictures still show the attitude indicator, airspeed indicator, whiskey compass, and altimeter on top of the G1000 display.
 
Since when? The current Diamond website pictures still show the attitude indicator, airspeed indicator, whiskey compass, and altimeter on top of the G1000 display.

He may have meant the Cessna has a vacuum powered back-up attitude indicator whereas the DA-40 has an electronic powered back-up attitude indicator.
 
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