FAA Memo About Process to DFH - Dispatch From Home
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Troy McClure
Ah say boy...Whattcha got there son?
Dear Capt Dufus, Im not doing this because I dont like going to work. For the love of god....Uh....I guess you havent heard about the virussy thing going around. And just when I thought there was going to be a real discussion. My bad.
Troy McClure
Ah say boy...Whattcha got there son?
THAAAAANK YOU. At least Mr. Karee gets it! The last I heard India was a corona free zone. Kissin' and huggin' all over town.
The FAA shot this down long ago. They Might be thinking a little different in now if some 121 wants to have dispatchers from home they are somewhat considering it. Jeppesen did the contract dispatch with Jetstar Asia for their flights and they are based in Singapore. It can be done.
BEEF SUPREME
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This isn't fair. I want to fly from home. In my socks and underwear.
The future is coming, and it’s coming quick. People need to stop fighting this, and just accept the reality that this job has an expiration date. Send each dispatcher home with a phone system, a computer, and a breathalyzer keyboard. Boom, you can work from home. Companies no longer need SOC / OCC / NOC’s or whatever they call them = savings on overhead.
If we have learned something from this virus, it’s how many jobs should, and could be done from home, and how many jobs are just absolutely • pointless.
That will be just the start. One airline I know of is already working on the flight planning system interpreting the 1-2-3 rule, another company is working on building AI generated routes that take into account ATC and weather reroutes, winds, turbulence, and so forth. Yeah it performs poorly now, but its just going up from here.
AI will be doing this job at some point, airplanes will be repaired by robots, bags will be loaded by a computer, planes will be boarded by a touch screen, and planes will be flown by 1 pilot, then just a drone pilot, and then just AI itself.
Jobs are dying as we speak...in the distant future the only job will be repairing robots....until they have robots to repair those robots. Its coming whether we like it or not, so you might as well hop on the automation train.
If we have learned something from this virus, it’s how many jobs should, and could be done from home, and how many jobs are just absolutely • pointless.
That will be just the start. One airline I know of is already working on the flight planning system interpreting the 1-2-3 rule, another company is working on building AI generated routes that take into account ATC and weather reroutes, winds, turbulence, and so forth. Yeah it performs poorly now, but its just going up from here.
AI will be doing this job at some point, airplanes will be repaired by robots, bags will be loaded by a computer, planes will be boarded by a touch screen, and planes will be flown by 1 pilot, then just a drone pilot, and then just AI itself.
Jobs are dying as we speak...in the distant future the only job will be repairing robots....until they have robots to repair those robots. Its coming whether we like it or not, so you might as well hop on the automation train.
Altimeter
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The issue is when, let’s not forget it took the FAA 5 years to come up with giving pilots 2 more hours of rest each night.
QXSOUP
Just an ACARS message with feelings
Not in your or my lifetime. Look at how long the FAA has TRIED to get nextgen going. Your job is safe.
I for one welcome my Google™ overlords.
manniax
Well-met in the Ka-tet
I could see the job evolving a lot, but I don’t see it going away completely. After the last attempt/debacle by the FAA to allow Jeppesen to do contract dispatching, I don’t see that being proposed again any time soon....and I honestly think single pilot cockpits on shorter legs are more likely with a “super dispatcher” able to land the plane in case of pilot incapacitation, before dispatchers go away completely. A human will still need to authorize and release each flight, per current FAA regulations. And as you noted, the FAA is not big on fast change. At all. I honestly don’t even forsee single pilot cockpits becoming a Thing within the next 20 years (more due to the aforementioned pace of the FAA than due to technology limitations.)
Delta Echo
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I may very well know of which operator is trying the entire "Software runs the show". It hasn't progressed anywhere since management started drooling over the idea. Even the product vendors don't know what these programs are supposed to do or how they work. It has all been turned off (hopefully permanently,) because it accomplishes notta and creates a lot more work/duplication for the dispatcher.
TN-DX
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There is a flight planning software doing it right now that is currently in use at 2 airlines in the US. It still does not replace the human knowledge and logic. Airport X is at Cat 2 mins and it picks the closest legal alternate that happens to be at published ALT Mins. No AI will replace human logic and thinking. Just my take on it.
I probably should’ve qualified my definition of “quick,” but I believe there will be massive changes in the next 20-30 years. The flight plan automation has been a complete failure so far, but eventually they will get it right when a behemoth like Delta starts trying it and not just the Allegiant types.
Moore's Law: refers to Moore's perception that the number of transistors on a microchip doubles every two years, though the cost of computers is halved. Moore's Law states that we can expect the speed and capability of our computers to increase every couple of years, and we will pay less for them.
Moore's Law: refers to Moore's perception that the number of transistors on a microchip doubles every two years, though the cost of computers is halved. Moore's Law states that we can expect the speed and capability of our computers to increase every couple of years, and we will pay less for them.
flynryan692
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Next gen Lido will do 1-2-3 rule, exemptions like 3585, and more. It is for the most part fully automated and the dispatcher just reviews it for accuracy.
Delta Echo
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Is that the basic European LIDO that doesn't let you change routes or the advanced American version?
flynryan692
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No idea, that's just what they were pitching as "features"
McCrosky
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yes it can read the 1-2-3 Rule. 3SM +TSRA BKN020 will pop for No alternate but I’m not trying it.
they do have a hell of a sales force though...
It’s scary that it would pop no alternate for TS anything. You would think the program would look at other parts of the METAR before making the determination.