FAA legal interpretations

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gomntwins

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I'm looking for a list of FAA legal interpretations... does anybody have any idea where to find it? I've searched the FAA website to no avail... so I was curious if anybody knows if it's online anywhere? I know I've seen it before, but I have no idea where... so if anybody can be of any help, that'd be wonderful. Thanks!
 
Here is a list of the FSDO areas. Each FSDO usually has a a link to Part 61 or 141 FAQ's.

FSDO's

If you click on this link, you will see a link to the FAQs in word format on the lower right side..

FAQ's
 
Sure, I'll ask the qustion! Actually, it's already been posed in the checkride central forum, but here goes: If you have a single and multi private and take your instrument checkride in a multi... do you need to prove proficiency to an examiner in a single engine airplane? According to an examiner that I had for a checkride a couple weeks ago, you most definitely need to go up with a DPE in a single and do an approach for the privileges to carry over to both classes of aircraft. A quick followup call to the FSDO yielded the same answer... you do in fact need to prove you can fly a single on instruments. Looking through both the PTS and the FAR's, however, I cannot find proof... which leads me to believe that the examiner was wrong and the FSDO just wanted to get me off the phone.
 
You know what's weird is that I didn't do my first single engine IFR approach until my CFI-I training. I really dunno for the most part.

MikeD was a student in the same program (and one of my roommates) and he can correct me if I'm wrong -- which wouldn't be the first time!
 
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If you have a single and multi private and take your instrument checkride in a multi... do you need to prove proficiency to an examiner in a single engine airplane?

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As far as I know you only have to prove proficiency if you have done your instrument rating in a single and you are adding a multi-engine rating. If memory serves you are only required to do single-engine approaches during your multi checkride (I cant even recall if you must do more than one, but you do have to do a single engine ILS. I dont think you have to do an partial panel or holding). Other than that if both engines are working there is nothing different about flying instruments in a twin when compared to a single. There is nothing in the FAR’s that suggests anything different that this and if there is some odd rule then I bet a whole bunch of people are flying IFR in singles illegally.
 
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If you have a single and multi private and take your instrument checkride in a multi... do you need to prove proficiency to an examiner in a single engine airplane?

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As far as I know you only have to prove proficiency if you have done your instrument rating in a single and you are adding a multi-engine rating. If memory serves you are only required to do single-engine approaches during your multi checkride (I cant even recall if you must do more than one, but you do have to do a single engine ILS. I dont think you have to do an partial panel or holding). Other than that if both engines are working there is nothing different about flying instruments in a twin when compared to a single. There is nothing in the FAR’s that suggests anything different that this and if there is some odd rule then I bet a whole bunch of people are flying IFR in singles illegally.

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Acadia and Doug are correct.

If you do your instrument in a multi, you're good for a single due to the IA being a category rating....in this case, you can "downgrade" (multi to single), but not "upgrade" with it, without the requisite sim SE approaches in the multi (ie- the multi-specific parts of the Instrument rating).
 
Leave it to a guy at the 'school house' to know the regs! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Hey Mike, so when's F-117 training over?
 
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Leave it to a guy at the 'school house' to know the regs! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Hey Mike, so when's F-117 training over?

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Almost done, about 3 more weeks. Weird plane, but very capable....beyond what the books out there say. Sorta odd having limited visibility from the cockpit, and also interfacing with how the plane "thinks" for itself.

In my squadron's bar, there's a banner on the wall that has a crude picture of the F-117 flying over a cemetary with a bunch of headstones that say "RIP". The banner says "Stealth Equals Death". The banner itself was made by two women anti-war protesters that wanted to hang the banner on the F-117 as it was parked at an airshow. They crossed the red line to slap this banner on the plane and were promptly taken down roughly. There's also a number of dark splochy-type splatter marks on the banner, which I found out was their blood spilled onto the banner from cuts received by the handling of the MPs guarding the 117. Hangs in the bar today.

We also have the original (framed) letter from the Chief of Staff of the USAF that every 117 pilot carried back when the jet was still secret. If the pilot had to emergency-divert any night to an airbase (that would've never seen this plane before), the pilot would request from ground to immediately taxi into a secure hanger, then would request the base commander meet him, and would hand the commander this letter signed by the Chief of Staff, which basically said "give this guy whatever he asks for, do what he says, and don't ask questions...."

Cool
 
I can see it already.

"Your women...bathe them and bring them to me... I've got this letter from the chief of staff!"
 
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Here is a list of the FSDO areas. Each FSDO usually has a a link to Part 61 or 141 FAQ's.

FSDO's

If you click on this link, you will see a link to the FAQs in word format on the lower right side..

FAQ's

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The FAQs are great reading, but they're not legal interpretations. I'm not sure where to find the actual interpretations...
 
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The FAQs are great reading, but they're not legal interpretations. I'm not sure where to find the actual interpretations...

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...chances are, it's probably a grey area. Probably *somewhat* legal to log, but it'll get you laughed right out of an interview if you've got anything more than five or ten hours of that time in your logbook...
 
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The FAQs are great reading, but they're not legal interpretations. I'm not sure where to find the actual interpretations...

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...chances are, it's probably a grey area. Probably *somewhat* legal to log, but it'll get you laughed right out of an interview if you've got anything more than five or ten hours of that time in your logbook...

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Now I'm aaaaaaaaall confused. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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The FAQs are great reading, but they're not legal interpretations. I'm not sure where to find the actual interpretations...

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Certainly not regulatory, but a good place to start looking with ambiguous FARs. Usually the are a good place to find a reference for the specific FAR that concerns the question being asked...
 
"The FAQs are great reading, but they're not legal interpretations. I'm not sure where to find the actual interpretations..."

The FAQ's are as close as I've ever seen to what you are looking for. What you are looking for....they don't want you to see. If you ever find it, let us know.
 
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do you need to prove proficiency to an examiner in a single engine airplane?

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Yes. This changed with the August 2002 PTS change ... you can no longer get a single (multi-restricted) Instrument Rating if you hold both single and multi private priviliges.

D'oh! Would help if I read the friggin' question ... but what I said does hold true. If you're multi and single rated and go to ad an instrument rating you must prove proficency in a multi as the FAA will no longer allow multi-restriced Instrument Ratings to be issued. Prior tothe August, 2002 PTS change you could do the IR Ride in a single and get an Instrument Rating "Airplane Single Engine & Multi Engine Land, Instrument Airplane Single Engine Only."
 
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do you need to prove proficiency to an examiner in a single engine airplane?

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Yes. This changed with the August 2002 PTS change ... you can no longer get a single (multi-restricted) Instrument Rating if you hold both single and multi private priviliges.

D'oh! Would help if I read the friggin' question ... but what I said does hold true. If you're multi and single rated and go to ad an instrument rating you must prove proficency in a multi as the FAA will no longer allow multi-restriced Instrument Ratings to be issued. Prior tothe August, 2002 PTS change you could do the IR Ride in a single and get an Instrument Rating "Airplane Single Engine & Multi Engine Land, Instrument Airplane Single Engine Only."

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What I was told, however, was that if you showed up to your IR checkride in a multi (you are both multi and single rated), and completed your checkride in a multi, you would also need to fly at least one approach in a single engine aircraft prior to be allowed to hold instrument privileges on your single engine ticket.
 
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do you need to prove proficiency to an examiner in a single engine airplane?

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Yes. This changed with the August 2002 PTS change ... you can no longer get a single (multi-restricted) Instrument Rating if you hold both single and multi private priviliges.

D'oh! Would help if I read the friggin' question ... but what I said does hold true. If you're multi and single rated and go to ad an instrument rating you must prove proficency in a multi as the FAA will no longer allow multi-restriced Instrument Ratings to be issued. Prior tothe August, 2002 PTS change you could do the IR Ride in a single and get an Instrument Rating "Airplane Single Engine & Multi Engine Land, Instrument Airplane Single Engine Only."

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What I was told, however, was that if you showed up to your IR checkride in a multi (you are both multi and single rated), and completed your checkride in a multi, you would also need to fly at least one approach in a single engine aircraft prior to be allowed to hold instrument privileges on your single engine ticket.

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Absoloutely not. Not true in any way, shape or form (as posted above by others).

The reason why is if you look through the PTS for Single engine IR and Multi Engine IR when you do the ride in a multi you do every taske asked for uner the <font color="red">Single Engine PTS</font> and then you do the additional multi-engine stuff. So by doing the ride in the multi you, by default, have demonstrated proficency in all tasks required by the single engine PTS.

If this is a DE who is telling you this find a different DE as he/she doesn't know WTF they are talking about.
 
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Absoloutely not. Not true in any way, shape or form (as posted above by others).

The reason why is if you look through the PTS for Single engine IR and Multi Engine IR when you do the ride in a multi you do every taske asked for uner the <font color="red">Single Engine PTS</font> and then you do the additional multi-engine stuff. So by doing the ride in the multi you, by default, have demonstrated proficency in all tasks required by the single engine PTS.

If this is a DE who is telling you this find a different DE as he/she doesn't know WTF they are talking about.

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Yep. That's the general consensus. I'm not quite sure what in the hell he was thinking... but he had a nice long conversation with me about how, if I was giving instrument training in a multi, I need to have my students go fly an approach in a single. Whatever. Glad I got that figured out... thanks for the input!
 
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if I was giving instrument training in a multi, I need to have my students go fly an approach in a single. Whatever. Glad I got that figured out... thanks for the input!

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Mind you, it wouldn't hurt to get some approach practice in a single if one hasn't done it before prior to taking the plane into IMC, but it's not required for one to do so.
 
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