z987k
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Ok Rush. That does nothing to further the argument. No government regulation isn't even an option at the table.
FAA claims video from drones on YouTube is a commercial venture
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wheelsup
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The FAA finally lost in court but for a long time they tried to stop SAR from using rc aircraft. They were actually saving lives with them, unlike guns that take many more lives than save. Guns are toys for most folks. My guess is looking at your LinkedIn photo you don't do much hunting for your food except at the local pub, as such a gun is not a tool you'd use like someone in Alaska.
The technology available today is pretty impressive. Lots of automation, charting, data collection add ons designed to help everyone from farmers to ecologists in a very cost efficient manner. Those folks aren't the issue, it's the Christmas time idiots that are.
Sometimes a picture says it best.
Yes. And while were at it, let's ban ALL general aviation as well, setting as there has been a few accidents in the long past with "little airplanes" bringing down "commercial" ones. I mean after all, a picture is worth....or wait a minute. Smart regulations, and meaningful changes changed all of that, didn't they?
Oh, and it's possible to find pictures that paint GA in a negative light, just like the picture you posted. Hell, you have a video of you flying into icing, in a non-FIKI airplane on your website. There sure are plenty of accident reports of guys doing exactly that.
Save the personal crap for someone else.
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SlumTodd_Millionaire
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wheelsup said:
Such ignorance. Read the CDC report. Even they had to admit that guns stop at least ten times as many violent crimes as they cause. The real number is much higher according to most studies. Show me where your toy is stopping a few hundred thousand violent crimes each year, and I'll reconsider by position.
wheelsup
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It's sad and unfortunate you think something has to have the ability to kill to make it a tool useful to others in their business.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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wheelsup said:
Actually, its ability to kill is what worries me. I'm not interested in seeing an airplane full of people taken down by some dooshbag's toy.
wheelsup
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I totally agree. We should ban all toys that kill people.
Mother, 3 year old and infant killed in aircraft crash
Due to the deplorable accident rate in general aviation, we should ban it.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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wheelsup said:
Your example arguing against regulation of your toy is one of the most heavily regulated hobbies on planet earth? Let me guess, you weren't on your high school's debate team, were you?
It's about as alarmist as the picture you posted. And you should know, you can expect icing in the conditions you were in. And with your own write up, seems like you were anticipating ice, and elected to continue. I don't know the specifics, but in the surface, it seems like s foolish move.
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wheelsup
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Most heavily regulated hobby on earth = 250-300 fatalities per year
RC toys = one in the history of time...(self inflicted at that)
If anything needs more regulation based on fatalities, its certain not the RC hobby.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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Nobody is talking about RC.
PhilosopherPilot
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But it is RC. It's merely RC with more advanced electronics and motors that make it easier to fly.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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That's like saying that a car is just an advanced Big Wheel. The reason that these things are becoming so common is that they are so easy to fly, so easy to maneuver in tight quarters, etc. The RC crowd and the drone crowd are not the same.
How is it not RC - Remote Controlled
You have issue with the crowd but in actuality the functionality is the same. It just happens that you see the "Drone" guys as being irresponsible while the "RC" guys are say aviation friendly and more educated on airspace. That alone is not basis for knee-jerk governmental oversight
You have issue with the crowd but in actuality the functionality is the same. It just happens that you see the "Drone" guys as being irresponsible while the "RC" guys are say aviation friendly and more educated on airspace. That alone is not basis for knee-jerk governmental oversight
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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What you call "knee-jerk government oversight," I call "sensible regulation to protect public safety." It's clear that we have different ideas of the purpose of government, so we should probably leave it at that.
Purpose of government aside, you haven't been able to differentiate these two groups of people(hobbyist) operating essentially the same equipment. Wasn't there a public safety issue with R/C planes. Yes or No?
No, it is more than that. Not by a lot, but it's more. I've been flying RC for 25+ years.
Edit to add: But there has never been a crash of a full scale airplane AFAIK from an RC. And there has been collisions.