FAA claims video from drones on YouTube is a commercial venture

ppragman said:
I actually agree, though I'd have liked to see more stringent training requirements than simply a written.
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So comment back and say that.

With so many different types of widgets, I'm not sure how you effectively give training. Perhaps maybe a scenario-based oral exam.
 
I read somewhere the head office put a muzzle on this particular inspector. He was way out of line.

Upon questioning a senator pointed out to the FAA PR guy that educating the public on something as grey as YouTube videos being considered commercial ops due to ads was remarkably stupid, and the FAA agreed.

90% of guys flying rc quads are racing them in between trees. The concern is about the uneducated idiot public, not the guy taking aerial photos from 100' 5 miles from an airport. Let's get real here. The FAA, by making it so ridiculous, they just pushed people further away from letting them regulate them.
 
hook_dupin said:
So comment back and say that.

With so many different types of widgets, I'm not sure how you effectively give training. Perhaps maybe a scenario-based oral exam.
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Training for a drone certificate would primarily consist of basic knowledge of how to operate a drone in a safe manner within the NAS, not necessarily how to manipulate the controls of the drone.

The fact is these mass market quadcopters always have fallen under the same regulations as other model aircraft, the difference being that people who take the time to build their own model aircraft also take the time to learn to operate them safely and people who fly high performance quadcopters pull them out of a box and crash them on the White House lawn or fly them on the final approach to LGA
 
Sometimes a picture says it best.

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Does anyone think that Joe Public knows or cares what the FAA rules are? There are rules against pointing lasers at airplanes too, but morons sitting in their backyard keep doing it

I would like to see a 500' AGL ceiling built into the software that operates these things, but other than that I don't think there is much anyone can do to stop them.
 
mojo6911 said:
I wish the local FSDO could perform its primary functions, like approving 135s, adding DPEs, performing CFI checkrides in a timely manner instead of trolling on youtube for drones.
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They busy keeping the skies safe for you and me!! :)
 
USMCmech said:
Does anyone think that Joe Public knows or cares what the FAA rules are? There are rules against pointing lasers at airplanes too, but morons sitting in their backyard keep doing it

I would like to see a 500' AGL ceiling built into the software that operates these things, but other than that I don't think there is much anyone can do to stop them.
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And there will be a guy on the internet selling a software to defeat it.
 
USMCmech said:
Does anyone think that Joe Public knows or cares what the FAA rules are? There are rules against pointing lasers at airplanes too, but morons sitting in their backyard keep doing it

I would like to see a 500' AGL ceiling built into the software that operates these things, but other than that I don't think there is much anyone can do to stop them.
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Prohibit the sale of them in the first place, and you don't have to worry about the consumer following the rules.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Prohibit the sale of them in the first place, and you don't have to worry about the consumer following the rules.
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You can build one for about $100 in parts including an open source micro controller. Banning them is tantamount to banning firearms. The cat is far too out of the bag at this point.
 
z987k said:
You can build one for about $100 in parts including an open source micro controller. Banning them is tantamount to banning firearms. The cat is far too out of the bag at this point.
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It would be the rare person who would go to the effort of building his own. They are becoming ubiquitous right now, and that's what needs to stop.
 
I don't get it. R/C airplanes and helicopters have been around FOREVER. Why are they called drones now?

Since R/C aircraft have been around forever, they are already regulated.

I'm curious if these guys taking these things to beaches or flying them around their neighborhoods are carrying AMA insurance. I'd be terrified to fly out in a field without it, let alone around a bunch of people and property.
 
lol if u think u can ban quadcopters, just like handguns in chicago or the war on los drogas

But I do support the idea of some bureaucracy around them. Wanna fly a drone? Gotta complete this two-hour online course about rules to earn your certificate (the groundwork for solid prosecution later). And god help you if you get caught with a vehicle that doesn't have some permanent identification on it.

Just lol at the idea of trying to ban anything as The Solution. But if you create the environment for a thing to exist in a safe and regulated fashion, it's much less likely to be A Bad Thing, and the axe of righteousness can be swung with great vigor when those rules of civilized society are breached.

Edit: And yeah, just like cars and homeowners, probably a really good idea to have some insurance for when you put a hole in somebody's roof.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
It would be the rare person who would go to the effort of building his own. They are becoming ubiquitous right now, and that's what needs to stop.
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With the further advancement of technology I don't think that will be the case. You can already 3d print almost all the parts from files that are open source. Build instructions and everything included. It's pretty close to banning.. well anything that you can 3d print. There's even 3d printers you can build from parts and open source micro controllers should you not want to shell out the $4-500 to buy a pre-made one.
 
Like I said, very rare that someone would go to that effort. There's a big difference between buying it at the Verizon store and buying 3D printed pieces for assembly.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Like I said, very rare that someone would go to that effort. There's a big difference between buying it at the Verizon store and buying 3D printed pieces for assembly.
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If they banned the sale of guns tomorrow how many people do you think would start 3d printing them at home?
I know when there was that ammo shortage everyone and their brother started reloading.
 
z987k said:
If they banned the sale of guns tomorrow how many people do you think would start 3d printing them at home? I know when there was that ammo shortage everyone and their brother started reloading.
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We're talking toys, not guns. I don't find them analogous. My gun can save my life. A toy is fun for a few months.
 
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