F-15 Ride Along Backseater Punches Out

arkavgal said:
Hmmm. I would had thought both seats would eject if 1 of the ejection seats was triggered.
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Both eject if the pilot does, only the back seater does if he pulls it. Although I think you can change the setting so they both do if the back seater pulls, but you wouldn’t do that with someone unfamiliar in the rear. Don’t remember exactly how I was briefed when I got my incentive flight in one.
 
arkavgal said:
Hmmm. I would had thought both seats would eject if 1 of the ejection seats was triggered.
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This proves you've never worked around ejection seats. I hate working on or around ejection seats. Did anyone notice the canopy sitting on the tail? That unit is shifting to F-35s so that F-15 will likely be scrapped or stored rather than being repaired. I'll once again say I hate working on or around ejection seats, I feel the same way about dynamite or any thing else set up to explode, it makes me nervous.
 
arkavgal said:
Hmmm. I would had thought both seats would eject if 1 of the ejection seats was triggered.
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Depends how the selector is set, when operational, command ejection is normally setup, where one person can eject both seats.

Single is set when each seat must command it’s own ejection…..very useful for incentive riders like this, for obvious reasons.

Had the Barnes 104th unit never been BRACd back in 2005 and had it’s A-10s replaced by the F-15s from their sister Wing the 102nd over at Otis, this never would’ve happened.
 
Yeah same for the NACES seats we have (a derivative of ACES II if I'm not mistaken?). Three positions in the rear cockpit, SOLO (for if the rear is unoccupied), NORM (aft seat goes out when that crew station initiates, front seat does not), and AFT Initiate (where rear seat can eject both front and back). Our rule is you have to be a qualified F/A-18 or EA-18 pilot or NFO to put the seat in aft initiate. Incentive rides, like this one, are flown in Norm. I'm sure they did the same thing here, with whatever equivalent setting the ACES has..........I did fly with ACES in the F-16, but too many penguins have slipped off the iceberg for me to remember if the mode terminology was the same, but I believe it functioned exactly the same IIRC (in the B models)
 
derg said:
“I’m real easy goin’ - I fly by the book, our goal today is to have. F-U-N and that spells fun.”

Smoke/noise/wind noise

“N826AW, where’d you go?!”

Parachute off in the distance unfurls.
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Swings the nose into the gate. Last leg of a 4 day.

“Hit me up on the grey market app we all use.”
“Great trip. Sure.”
“You know we used to refer to this airport as the ghetto… wink wink. Did you send me that app invite?”
“Cap, do you know who Taylor Swift is? Because we are N E V E R getting back together. Like E V A R.”
 
derg said:
“I’m real easy goin’ - I fly by the book, our goal today is to have. F-U-N and that spells fun.”

Smoke/noise/wind noise

“N826AW, where’d you go?!”

Parachute off in the distance unfurls.
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The last guy to tell me he likes to have fun ended up the sole denizen of my no fly list
 
F-4 was pretty much like the F-15 as previously stated, backseat had a handle to command individual ejections or dual. Most of the time I had the WSO command both seats and not when I gave incentive rides.
 
MikeD said:
Depends how the selector is set, when operational, command ejection is normally setup, where one person can eject both seats.

Single is set when each seat must command it’s own ejection…..very useful for incentive riders like this, for obvious reasons.

Had the Barnes 104th unit never been BRACd back in 2005 and had it’s A-10s replaced by the F-15s from their sister Wing the 102nd over at Otis, this never would’ve happened.
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Does the front seat normally activate both seats when someone is in the back? Are both crew members expected to independently make the split decision to eject?
 
arkavgal said:
Does the front seat normally activate both seats when someone is in the back? Are both crew members expected to independently make the split decision to eject?
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Depends on the airframe. A number of them have the backseat being able to command eject both, but not the front seat having the ability. Oftentimes the decision to eject, with an experienced crew, is left to the back seater as the front seater is usually busy with flying or trying to control the jet, if things are going bad.
 
Sculprit said:
The intrusive thoughts won.
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arkavgal said:
Does the front seat normally activate both seats when someone is in the back? Are both crew members expected to independently make the split decision to eject?
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In my current aircraft, if I pull the handle we both go in all cases, unless the rear seat mode selector is in "solo". I think most modern (4th gen) two seat tactical aircraft are similar. I imagine the mindset is that if the pilot goes, there is nothing left to do (our jets don't have controls in the back, for the most part).
 
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