ExpressJet

[A-9er]

If I had to guess, I would say this is a deliberate move on Skywest's part to move as much flying from a unionized airline (XJT) to their original, completely non-unionized airline. I'm sure they wouldn't officially claim that is a motivation, but it sounds like it to me.

Why not break the union then? Why not try to have it decertified?

Then again, SkyWest may simply want to consolidate operations in one place, so as to make things easier.

 

[manniax]

Why not break the union then? Why not try to have it decertified?

Then again, SkyWest may simply want to consolidate operations in one place, so as to make things easier.

Without getting into labor laws, a company can't just "break a union" or de-certify it because they don't like it, once it's voted in. Much easier to shrink the company and move the flying to a non-union carrier, although that can be illegal also if done for the express purpose of union busting.

While working at regional airlines was good experience, I surely don't miss it any.

 

[A-9er]

Without getting into labor laws, a company can't just "break a union" or de-certify it because they don't like it, once it's voted in. Much easier to shrink the company and move the flying to a non-union carrier, although that can be illegal also if done for the express purpose of union busting.

While working at regional airlines was good experience, I surely don't miss it any.

Ok...

 

[A-9er]

Without getting into labor laws, a company can't just "break a union" or de-certify it because they don't like it, once it's voted in. Much easier to shrink the company and move the flying to a non-union carrier, although that can be illegal also if done for the express purpose of union busting.

While working at regional airlines was good experience, I surely don't miss it any.

What is it about regional airlines that you don't miss? I'm curious. At my age, I don't know if I'll get much PAST the regional level; my inclination is to just make the best of it when I get there...

 

[manniax]

What is it about regional airlines that you don't miss? I'm curious. At my age, I don't know if I'll get much PAST the regional level; my inclination is to just make the best of it when I get there...

Oh, I didn't mind the work there, at a decent one. There was just always some uncertainty about the future, major airline contracts. Also, when non-revving, you usually are the last one to get on mainline aircraft, and the pay isn't that great. Nothing wrong with making a career at a regional, as I have known many people who did, but some of those regionals also no longer are around, such as Comair, forcing them to go elsewhere or leave the industry. The only constant in aviation is change, and that seems to be doubly true at regionals.


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[A-9er]

Oh, I didn't mind the work there, at a decent one. There was just always some uncertainty about the future, major airline contracts. Also, when non-revving, you usually are the last one to get on mainline aircraft, and the pay isn't that great. Nothing wrong with making a career at a regional, as I have known many people who did, but some of those regionals also no longer are around, such as Comair, forcing them to go elsewhere or leave the industry. The only constant in aviation is change, and that seems to be doubly true at regionals.


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So, who do you think will bite the dust next after ExpressJet?

 

[manniax]

So, who do you think will bite the dust next after ExpressJet?

I don't know if they'll "bite the dust" or not, they may continue to operate but with a smaller fleet. As for other regionals that appear to be struggling, it would all be speculation on my part. I don't work in that part of the industry any more so I don't keep as close an eye on developments there as I once did.

 

[JDRUNNER]

No one really gets into this job to have a career at a regional. The pay is just so low with you making maybe 50k after 10 years of being there. That isn't much especially if you have a family and are the primary wage earner. You put in your time, work hard at basically at regional and move on. However for some, getting the schedule they want and the location will keep them at a regional by choice. Also keep in mind some people at a regional just don't have the "stuff" to move on.

 

[A-9er]

No one really gets into this job to have a career at a regional. The pay is just so low with you making maybe 50k after 10 years of being there. That isn't much especially if you have a family and are the primary wage earner. You put in your time, work hard at basically at regional and move on. However for some, getting the schedule they want and the location will keep them at a regional by choice. Also keep in mind some people at a regional just don't have the "stuff" to move on.

JD, at my age, I don't know if I'll MAKE the majors. Even if I do well and have the "stuff" to move on, I'll be too old. Ergo, I'll be happy if I can get with a good regional in a good area; at this point, it's the best I can realistically hope for...

 

[Tuesnightshenanigans]

JD, at my age, I don't know if I'll MAKE the majors. Even if I do well and have the "stuff" to move on, I'll be too old. Ergo, I'll be happy if I can get with a good regional in a good area; at this point, it's the best I can realistically hope for...

It's possible. I do know someone who was older who is now at United. He did have a little more experience though in the past but he made it to United while working at a regional.


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[A-9er]

It's possible. I do know someone who was older who is now at United. He did have a little more experience though in the past but he made it to United while working at a regional.


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If that happens, it would be nice. That said, I'm not EXPECTING it. As someone once said, it's all a matter of timing. We'll see...