Explosion on QANTAS 747 - Emergency Landing
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mjg407
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Re: What's missing from the picture.....
I'll post some pics here shortly once the preliminary investigation is done. The Navy just tore up a P-3 pretty badly. Went from 6000 feet to a recovery estimated at 50 feet in 18 seconds. Indications are a spin or a spiral (rapid roll) with a 7 G pull out on the bottom. No injuries. Airplane isn't looking so hot.
I'll post some pics here shortly once the preliminary investigation is done. The Navy just tore up a P-3 pretty badly. Went from 6000 feet to a recovery estimated at 50 feet in 18 seconds. Indications are a spin or a spiral (rapid roll) with a 7 G pull out on the bottom. No injuries. Airplane isn't looking so hot.
jynxyjoe
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Re: What's missing from the picture.....
MM1 entry:
Writeup: explosive decompression in flight associated loud "bang". Noted large hole on FO's side of Aircraft
Corrective action: Could not duplicate on ground. Ops check good per MX guidance. Associated hole found to be within tolerances.
MM1 entry:
Writeup: explosive decompression in flight associated loud "bang". Noted large hole on FO's side of Aircraft
Corrective action: Could not duplicate on ground. Ops check good per MX guidance. Associated hole found to be within tolerances.
Sorry if this has been posted on here but I didn't see it. Explosive decompression and there's a big hole in the plane. Scary...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-philippines-emergency-landing,0,6692164.story
MANILA, Philippines (AP) _ The 346 passengers were cruising at 29,000 feet Friday when an explosive bang shook the Qantas jumbo jet. The plane descended rapidly. Oxygen masks dropped from the ceiling as debris flew through the cabin from a hole that had suddenly appeared in the floor.
It wasn't until they were safely on the ground after an emergency landing that they realized how lucky they had been: A hole the size of a small car had been ripped into the Boeing 747-400's metal skin and penetrated the fuselage.
The eerie scene aboard Flight QF 30, captured on a passenger's cell phone video-camera, showed a tense quiet punctuated only by a baby's cries as passengers sat with oxygen masks on their faces. The jerky footage showed a woman holding tightly to the seat in front of her as rapidly approaching land appeared through a window. Loud applause and relieved laughter went up as the plane touched down.
There were no injuries and only a few cases of nausea, airline officials said. An official of the U.S. Transportation Security Administration said initial reports indicated no link to terrorism.
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The passengers and crew arrived in Melbourne on a different plane Saturday mnorning and were greeted by hundreds of relieved family members.
Investigators appeared to be focusing on a structural problem.
"From the pictures that we've seen out of Manila during the course of the day, it would seem that one of the panels to the outer skin of the aircraft has literally come away from the rest of the fuselage," Chris Yates, an aviation expert at Jane's Aviation, told The Associated Press.
"As a consequence of this, the aircraft experienced rapid decompression," he said.
While it is not uncommon for metal panels to be lost from aircraft in flight, he said: "It's relatively rare that when a bit falls off the airplane it causes the sort of instance that we saw in relation to Qantas. In other words that it causes the aircraft cabin to depressurize."
Yates said investigators will examine closely the fracture points that showed up on the skin of the aircraft to determine whether metal fatigue or manufacturing defect caused the panel to peel away.
The passengers, on a flight from London to Melbourne, had just been served a meal after a stopover in Hong Kong when they described hearing a loud bang, then their ears popping as air rushed out the hole. The pilots put the plane into a quick descent to 10,000 feet, where the atmosphere is still thin but breathable.
The Manila airport authority, quoting pilot John Francis Bartels, said the plane suffered an "explosive decompression."
"One hour into the flight there was a big bang, then the plane started going down," passenger Marina Scaffidi, 39, from Melbourne, told The Associated Press by phone from the airport. "There was wind swirling around the plane and some condensation."
She said a hole extended from the cargo hold into the passenger cabin.
After the pilots' initial rapid descent, "the plane kept going down, not too fast, but it was descending," Scaffidi said, adding the staff informed passengers they were diverting to Manila. TV screens on the backs of seats allowed them to track their route to the Philippine capital.
"No one was very hysterical," she said.
June Kane of Melbourne agreed, telling Australia's ABC radio: "It was absolutely terrifying, but I have to say everyone was very calm."
Amazingly calm, in fact.
Video footage showed people looking almost as if nothing was wrong as they glanced from side to side, their nearly untouched meals still in front of them. The cabin crew continued to work, smiling as they walked down the aisles to reassure nervous passengers.
After the plane touched down safely amid applause, one of the pilots could be heard saying over the intercom: "Fire vehicles and emergency vehicles are going to take a look at us."
What they found was a stunning sight. A 9-foot-wide hole gaped at the joint where the front of the right wing attaches to the plane. Luggage from the cargo hold strained against the webbing used to keep it from shifting during a flight.
A curved line of rivets was still visible on the plane's body at the front edge where the missing sheet once was; a straight line of rivets was along the other.
Boeing spokeswoman Liz Verdier said it was too soon to determine what caused the hole, but the company was providing technical assistance as part of an investigation led by the National Transportation Safety Board.
"We are dispatching four personnel from Boeing, an investigator and three engineers," who were leaving immediately, she said.
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The probe into the 17-year-old aircraft was likely to be lengthy, Verdier said, and the Boeing team expects to interview the crew and examine the structure of the plane, among other things.
Friday's incident carried some echoes of a 1988 case in which a large section of an older Aloha Airlines jetliner was torn off over Hawaii because of metal fatigue. Although the pilots were able to land, a flight attendant died and many of the 89 passengers were seriously injured.
Geoff Dixon, the chief executive officer of Qantas, Australia's largest airline, praised the pilots and the rest of the 19-member crew for how they handled Friday's events.
"This was a highly unusual situation and our crew responded with the professionalism that Qantas is known for," he said.
The passengers were taken to several hotels in Manila, then left just before midnight on another plane to Melbourne.
Qantas boasts a strong safety record and has never lost a jet to an accident, although there were crashes of smaller planes, the last in 1951. Since then, there have been no accident-related deaths on any Qantas jets.
However, the airline has had a few scares in recent years.
In February 2008, a Qantas 717 with 84 passengers on board sustained substantial damage in a heavy landing in Darwin, Australia. And the year before, Qantas acknowledged that an unlicensed mechanical engineer had conducted safety checks on more than 1,000 international flights over a 12-month period at Sydney airport.
In September 1999, a Qantas Boeing 747-400 with more than 400 people on board overshot a runway in Bangkok, Thailand, during bad weather.
Union engineers — who have held several strikes this year to demand pay raises — say that safety is being compromised by low wages and overtime work.
As of December 2007, Qantas was operating 216 aircraft flying to 140 destinations in 37 countries, though in recent months it has announced it will retire some aircraft and cancel some routes — as well as cutting 1,500 jobs worldwide — due to skyrocketing fuel prices.
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Associated Press writers Lily Hindy in New York, Oliver Teves and Teresa Cerojano in Manila, and Tanalee Smith in Sydney, Australia, contributed to this report.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-philippines-emergency-landing,0,6692164.story
MANILA, Philippines (AP) _ The 346 passengers were cruising at 29,000 feet Friday when an explosive bang shook the Qantas jumbo jet. The plane descended rapidly. Oxygen masks dropped from the ceiling as debris flew through the cabin from a hole that had suddenly appeared in the floor.
It wasn't until they were safely on the ground after an emergency landing that they realized how lucky they had been: A hole the size of a small car had been ripped into the Boeing 747-400's metal skin and penetrated the fuselage.
The eerie scene aboard Flight QF 30, captured on a passenger's cell phone video-camera, showed a tense quiet punctuated only by a baby's cries as passengers sat with oxygen masks on their faces. The jerky footage showed a woman holding tightly to the seat in front of her as rapidly approaching land appeared through a window. Loud applause and relieved laughter went up as the plane touched down.
There were no injuries and only a few cases of nausea, airline officials said. An official of the U.S. Transportation Security Administration said initial reports indicated no link to terrorism.
Related links
The passengers and crew arrived in Melbourne on a different plane Saturday mnorning and were greeted by hundreds of relieved family members.
Investigators appeared to be focusing on a structural problem.
"From the pictures that we've seen out of Manila during the course of the day, it would seem that one of the panels to the outer skin of the aircraft has literally come away from the rest of the fuselage," Chris Yates, an aviation expert at Jane's Aviation, told The Associated Press.
"As a consequence of this, the aircraft experienced rapid decompression," he said.
While it is not uncommon for metal panels to be lost from aircraft in flight, he said: "It's relatively rare that when a bit falls off the airplane it causes the sort of instance that we saw in relation to Qantas. In other words that it causes the aircraft cabin to depressurize."
Yates said investigators will examine closely the fracture points that showed up on the skin of the aircraft to determine whether metal fatigue or manufacturing defect caused the panel to peel away.
The passengers, on a flight from London to Melbourne, had just been served a meal after a stopover in Hong Kong when they described hearing a loud bang, then their ears popping as air rushed out the hole. The pilots put the plane into a quick descent to 10,000 feet, where the atmosphere is still thin but breathable.
The Manila airport authority, quoting pilot John Francis Bartels, said the plane suffered an "explosive decompression."
"One hour into the flight there was a big bang, then the plane started going down," passenger Marina Scaffidi, 39, from Melbourne, told The Associated Press by phone from the airport. "There was wind swirling around the plane and some condensation."
She said a hole extended from the cargo hold into the passenger cabin.
After the pilots' initial rapid descent, "the plane kept going down, not too fast, but it was descending," Scaffidi said, adding the staff informed passengers they were diverting to Manila. TV screens on the backs of seats allowed them to track their route to the Philippine capital.
"No one was very hysterical," she said.
June Kane of Melbourne agreed, telling Australia's ABC radio: "It was absolutely terrifying, but I have to say everyone was very calm."
Amazingly calm, in fact.
Video footage showed people looking almost as if nothing was wrong as they glanced from side to side, their nearly untouched meals still in front of them. The cabin crew continued to work, smiling as they walked down the aisles to reassure nervous passengers.
After the plane touched down safely amid applause, one of the pilots could be heard saying over the intercom: "Fire vehicles and emergency vehicles are going to take a look at us."
What they found was a stunning sight. A 9-foot-wide hole gaped at the joint where the front of the right wing attaches to the plane. Luggage from the cargo hold strained against the webbing used to keep it from shifting during a flight.
A curved line of rivets was still visible on the plane's body at the front edge where the missing sheet once was; a straight line of rivets was along the other.
Boeing spokeswoman Liz Verdier said it was too soon to determine what caused the hole, but the company was providing technical assistance as part of an investigation led by the National Transportation Safety Board.
"We are dispatching four personnel from Boeing, an investigator and three engineers," who were leaving immediately, she said.
Related links
The probe into the 17-year-old aircraft was likely to be lengthy, Verdier said, and the Boeing team expects to interview the crew and examine the structure of the plane, among other things.
Friday's incident carried some echoes of a 1988 case in which a large section of an older Aloha Airlines jetliner was torn off over Hawaii because of metal fatigue. Although the pilots were able to land, a flight attendant died and many of the 89 passengers were seriously injured.
Geoff Dixon, the chief executive officer of Qantas, Australia's largest airline, praised the pilots and the rest of the 19-member crew for how they handled Friday's events.
"This was a highly unusual situation and our crew responded with the professionalism that Qantas is known for," he said.
The passengers were taken to several hotels in Manila, then left just before midnight on another plane to Melbourne.
Qantas boasts a strong safety record and has never lost a jet to an accident, although there were crashes of smaller planes, the last in 1951. Since then, there have been no accident-related deaths on any Qantas jets.
However, the airline has had a few scares in recent years.
In February 2008, a Qantas 717 with 84 passengers on board sustained substantial damage in a heavy landing in Darwin, Australia. And the year before, Qantas acknowledged that an unlicensed mechanical engineer had conducted safety checks on more than 1,000 international flights over a 12-month period at Sydney airport.
In September 1999, a Qantas Boeing 747-400 with more than 400 people on board overshot a runway in Bangkok, Thailand, during bad weather.
Union engineers — who have held several strikes this year to demand pay raises — say that safety is being compromised by low wages and overtime work.
As of December 2007, Qantas was operating 216 aircraft flying to 140 destinations in 37 countries, though in recent months it has announced it will retire some aircraft and cancel some routes — as well as cutting 1,500 jobs worldwide — due to skyrocketing fuel prices.
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Associated Press writers Lily Hindy in New York, Oliver Teves and Teresa Cerojano in Manila, and Tanalee Smith in Sydney, Australia, contributed to this report.
Chief Captain
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Well done to the pilots and FA's. This could have easily been much worse.
JA Yawd Bwoy
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Thank God everyone was ok! I guess Qantas can still say they have never totaled a plane or lost any passengers!
Man the passengers stomachs must have been in their head by the time the decent was over!:crazy:
Man the passengers stomachs must have been in their head by the time the decent was over!:crazy:
drhunterr
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,392401,00.html
737-800 this time...holy cow.
Another mid-air emergency has forced a Qantas jet to make an unscheduled landing, this time at Adelaide airport after a door opened during a flight to Melbourne.
The Boeing 737-800 departed Adelaide at 6:08 p.m. local time and returned 37 minutes later, reports said.
There was confusion over what caused the emergency. Passengers said a door opened mid-flight, causing "chaos" in the cabin. But a control room operator at Adelaide Airport, who would only give his name as Sunny, told Times Online the doors covering the wheels did not close properly after take-off. The pilot reported this to air traffic control and returned to the runway — but officials deny that it should be classed as an emergency landing.
The aircraft turned around near Murray Bridge, about 40 miles from Adelaide, and landed safely at 6.45pm. It remained at Adelaide airport while passengers were transferred to another Melbourne flight , the Herald Sun reported.
A Qantas spokesman refused to comment beyond confirming an incident had occurred on the flight
That damage is thought to have been caused by an exploding oxygen canister. A section of the cabin flooring gave way, part of the ceiling collapsed and items flew into the first-class area. Investigators yesterday found debris - believed to be from the canister - in the aircraft
Captain John Francis Bartels, a former pilot with the Royal Australian Navy, and his co-pilot Werninghaus Bernd, put the aircraft into an emergency descent from 29,000ft to 10,000ft and landed an hour later in Manila, to applause from passengers. Qantas subsequently carried out checks on its entire fleet.
It is bad news for the new chief executive of Qantas, which boasts of never having suffered a fatal flight. Dublin-born Alan Joyce took over today, just days after 1,500 staff at the company lost their jobs.
Any opinions on why all these planes are decompressing? I mean obviously when a giant hole blows into the sign of the plane...but what about all the domestic carriers?
Sorry if today's story had been posted already.
737-800 this time...holy cow.
Another mid-air emergency has forced a Qantas jet to make an unscheduled landing, this time at Adelaide airport after a door opened during a flight to Melbourne.
The Boeing 737-800 departed Adelaide at 6:08 p.m. local time and returned 37 minutes later, reports said.
There was confusion over what caused the emergency. Passengers said a door opened mid-flight, causing "chaos" in the cabin. But a control room operator at Adelaide Airport, who would only give his name as Sunny, told Times Online the doors covering the wheels did not close properly after take-off. The pilot reported this to air traffic control and returned to the runway — but officials deny that it should be classed as an emergency landing.
The aircraft turned around near Murray Bridge, about 40 miles from Adelaide, and landed safely at 6.45pm. It remained at Adelaide airport while passengers were transferred to another Melbourne flight , the Herald Sun reported.
A Qantas spokesman refused to comment beyond confirming an incident had occurred on the flight
That damage is thought to have been caused by an exploding oxygen canister. A section of the cabin flooring gave way, part of the ceiling collapsed and items flew into the first-class area. Investigators yesterday found debris - believed to be from the canister - in the aircraft
Captain John Francis Bartels, a former pilot with the Royal Australian Navy, and his co-pilot Werninghaus Bernd, put the aircraft into an emergency descent from 29,000ft to 10,000ft and landed an hour later in Manila, to applause from passengers. Qantas subsequently carried out checks on its entire fleet.
It is bad news for the new chief executive of Qantas, which boasts of never having suffered a fatal flight. Dublin-born Alan Joyce took over today, just days after 1,500 staff at the company lost their jobs.
Any opinions on why all these planes are decompressing? I mean obviously when a giant hole blows into the sign of the plane...but what about all the domestic carriers?
Sorry if today's story had been posted already.
Minuteman
I HAVE STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT AUTOMOTIVE LIGHTING!
drhunterr
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right up there with pilots being the most overpaid workers...we have some fine standards here for journalism.
it's like when oil goes up, it's always "surging" or "jumping" and when it goes down, it's merely "easing"
my question, though, about the domestic carriers having to land (maybe 2 or three flights in the last two weeks?) due to pressure problems...any possible causation for this, or just kinda a fluke?
it's like when oil goes up, it's always "surging" or "jumping" and when it goes down, it's merely "easing"
my question, though, about the domestic carriers having to land (maybe 2 or three flights in the last two weeks?) due to pressure problems...any possible causation for this, or just kinda a fluke?
zmiller4
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Urh? Doors?
That's some fine journalism.
Nose gear doors maybe?
granlistillo
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Glad Rainman doesnt have to catch his flights on a startup.