Excerpts from a Regional Pilot Journal

acpen

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Hey guys... I wrote this over a series of weeks from hotels on the road. I know this is where all the future pilots hang out and I wanted to post some of excerts of my journal. Thanks for reading, I hope you enjoy it. I am in the process of buidling a web blog that will post to and I'll put that address on the board as soon as possible.

So you want to be an airline pilot? First let me start by saying, I don’t have a specific goal in writing this journal. It is my intent to write from a first hand perspective about what I experience, my impressions, and my thoughts as I move forward in this chosen profession. My hope is that I will reach people who are interested or have thought about becoming an airline pilot. It has been my experience that many people know what it is like to be a regional airline pilot. So much of what I had found on the subject was either very incomplete or jaded against the profession and the industry. It is my goal to provide a balanced perspective on both the positive and negative aspects of my career. Clearly my first sentence must be a lie. I guess I do have a specific goal in writing this journal.

WHO AM I?:

I am a first officer for a small regional airline based in the Mid West. I joined this company in Oct of 2004. Before working here I was a 135 freight pilot for a company based in New Mexico. As of right now I am a build up line holder, which means I don’t have a regular line, but I am no longer on reserve either. In June I received a schedule worth 79 hours of pay and 11 days off. I currently earn $21.75 per hour of flight and $1.40 per hour of duty.

TRAINING:

When I began training in OCT of 2004, I felt quite assured of myself. Why shouldn’t I have? I had been flying piston twin aircraft for an operator out of New Mexico. I had been flying all over the Rocky Mountains in conditions that were less than ideal. I really enjoyed that position and thought I was excelled in the demands of the job.

Training for a 121 first officer position was different than I thought it would be. We did a week of basic indoctrination. Followed by a week of working in the General Operation Manual. We spent a day working on CRM, followed by 3 weeks of systems training. I would have to say that the company did provide appropriate time to complete the required training. I did not feel rushed or over consumed. I did have to study and prepare myself for class each day, but alas it was not too hard. During systems training we were joined in class by first officer who were upgrading to captain. One of these first officers was involved in the mentor program sponsored by the union. A handful of us took the opportunity to spend the evenings with him at simulator center to review the systems we had discussed in class that day. This was an extremely beneficial relationship as it made my preparation easier and the material easier to grasp.

After passing systems I eventually made it to sim. I had not flown in probably six weeks but alas I still felt fresh and proficient with my skills. Wow, what I mistake I had made. My sim sessions were a struggle. While I wasn’t terribly bad and unacceptable, I really was rusty. I needed all the time I could get and I just felt like I was always 1 day behind. Maybe this is the reason I failed my 121 check ride. I was unable to fly a single engine ILS approach for a check ride. While there were many factors that led to the unsatisfactory event, it basically came down to me putting too much pressure on myself and trying to do too much. With a few days off and some additional training I was able to do a recheck and passed with out any other mishaps.

When I began Initial Operations Experience, I probably could have dealt with any emergency in the book. However flying from A to B, was a little out of my league. My first trip ever took me to New York’s La Guardia Airport. I have to say now, my captain was single pilot. I was useless. We were landing in New York and In my head, I was still on the ground at the airport we took off from. Thank goodness I caught on quick. I was able to prove myself a safe pilot and pass IOE and was released to work the line. Which for me meant reserve for an indefinite amount of time. Now the only thing I have to worry about is remembering all the stuff from training.

RESERVE:

While I attended training I lived in a crash pad because I continued to live in the Rocky Mountain Region. There were a quite a few guys in the crash pad. One in particular was a first officer commuter from California, he was leaving the company to go fly corporate as a first officer. He insistently told me don’t expect to fly to much. He stated that he had been with the company for 7 months and was barely flying. So apparently I had been warned of what to expect. I was a little surprised, the summer before I was hired had been a huge hiring boom for the the company. They were hiring as many as 40 a month and my class had only 14. My suspected was that I was hired at the end of the boom and my suspicions were confirmed when it was announced that there would be no November class.

Here is a summary of my flying while on reserve.

January 2005:
37:49

February 2005:
36:23

March 2005:
46:46

April 2005:
51:48

Grand Total: 172:46

I was getting a total of 10 days off a month and commuting from home to my Mid-Western city. It was hard, but I did enjoy it. Then in May the greatest thing happened I received a buildup line. Thanks to a senior guy who made a mistake on his bid, I was able to sneak in and get the last build up line. I was finally going to fly.

BUILD UP:
Build up lines are created using open time which has not been assigned to other pilots and from other pilot’s lines when they have vacation, training, or other various reasons that they are unable to fly. They are created at the discretion of crew planning and I’m not sure what their standards are for these creations. Apparently they change from month to month. My first month on build up my line was built to 94 hours with 12 days off. Not too shabby. I was really excited. Also a two day trip was dropped from me because some ‘new hire’ needed IOE. So I was paid for the trip and was blessed with 14 days off. Life was pretty good at that point. Everyone told me to be grateful as it wouldn’t last long and that there was clearly some sort of mistake for me to have such a good month.

Well alas they were right...

My second month of build up was worth 79 hours of pay and 11 days off and two reserve days. I was able to drop one leg and make it 12 days off, but unfortunately other than a span of six days off in a row and another with 3 days off in a row. The remaining 3 days are all single days off and I am unable to commute home. Fortunately for me a good friend of mine lives recently moved to my Mid Western base and I don’t have to have a crash pad. It is my hope that next month I might be able to bid and receive a hard line. We will see?

THE FUTURE:

Up until now I have been informational with just a bit of side noting. Today I have decided to write something a little different. While my thoughts may come out a little unorganized you get the idea.

As I sit here in Charlotte, NC writing away... I stop and think about what I have seen and done over the past 6 months since finishing IOE. I have flown with some great guys and enjoyed my work. There have been a few instances of frustration and horizon is rather uncertain. With the advent of 70 seat regional jets and down sizing of legacy airlines I don’t really know what the career will be for me. I enjoy the work. I wish I could say the same for the compensation.

My June pay checks after taxes were as follows:

$1,275.75 June 15th
$644.93 June 1st

I have never heard of such a job where someone has to train so hard and know so much to earn so little. Why is it like this? I am told it is because this is the only industry where people will work for free. Apparently some people believe that if you have flight time you can get a job making tons of money. So young first officers were willing to except low paying jobs because they were getting experience, (something more valuable than money) See http://www.airlinepilotpay/ to see how much pilots make. Now I see those high paying respectable jobs are gone, like the dinosaurs. Regional airline jobs are the jobs for the foreseeable future. There are lots of people with time who are going to get better jobs before I do. I want to be compensated at a living way. Those of you who are interested in this profession talk to regional airline pilots, talk to freight pilots and flight instructors. There isn’t a fast way to easy money. Some of the best flying I ever did was flight instructing and flying freight. I am glad I didn’t rush to get to this job. So many people talk about quality of life. Well being financially compensated is a quality of life issue. I am not saying that is a bad job. I am not saying I don’t want to do this job. I am saying pilots of regional airlines need to stand together and demand a livable wage.

There are those out there who say they don’t care about what they make today, because someday it will pay off. I’m not sure if that is true. The low salary to take today allows you to take a mediocre salary in the future, because it is a step up. How else do you explain a pilot working as a Airbus 320 captain for USA 3000 making 75K a year and a Airbus 300 captain at express net making 70K a year, While a Southwest captain makes 151K a year. I think we are responsible for the wages in this industry. Clearly if you are making 56K as an regional captain 75K and 70K is more money. But was message is being sent to these companies. We are saying well it is better than I was making, but alas we need to ask ourselves what are we worth? What is the profession worth? We are better than 75K a year to command a wide body transport aircraft, are we not?

Those of you who plan to be pilots you are worth more than $19 an hour to fly a regional jet. You are worth more today, don’t sell out today so that maybe you’ll be worth more in the future.
 
Excellent perspective. It is a difficult situation as far as pay, because we are in a supply and demand economy. Flying is something special. I can identify with the willingness to take an 80% paycut from a corporate job. I don't know if there is a solution to low and declining wages of pilots.

Aside from that, I would like to hear more about how you got from primary training to the 135 operation, then to the regional. As in, where did you get your multi/CFI/MEI/CFII ratings, how long did you work as a CFI, how did you get hired by the 135 and how many hours did you have, etc? Thanks!
 
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I don't know if there is a solution to low and declining wages of pilots.

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Yes there is. Raise the minimums.

But nobody agrees with me, and it'll never happen anyways, so I won't be able to say, "I told you all so!"
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Before working here I was a 135 freight pilot for a company based in New Mexico.

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South Aero?
 
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I don't know if there is a solution to low and declining wages of pilots.

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Yes there is. Raise the minimums.

But nobody agrees with me, and it'll never happen anyways, so I won't be able to say, "I told you all so!"
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I think that's a pretty silly idea . . .

I don't mind working for peanuts, when it's in the normal progression of the industry.

Of course, I'm doing this flying thing strictly because I love it, and not for the money . . .
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Aside from that, I would like to hear more about how you got from primary training to the 135 operation, then to the regional. As in, where did you get your multi/CFI/MEI/CFII ratings, how long did you work as a CFI, how did you get hired by the 135 and how many hours did you have, etc? Thanks!

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I don't think there is a solution to the pay problem. It all boils down to basic economics (i.e. supply and demand). More pilots than jobs=lower pay, more jobs than pilots=higher pay. A lot of people say the problem would be solved if people just refused to work for those wages but that is unrealistic. To a CFI who is flying around in a Cessna 152 all day, the thought of flying a nice shiny jet with a glass cockpit is irresistable, hence the supply of pilots. One conundrum with the regionals is that due to their lower costs, the majors are farming out more and more of their flying which reduces the mainline jobs available.
 
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I think that's a pretty silly idea . . .

I don't mind working for peanuts, when it's in the normal progression of the industry.

Of course, I'm doing this flying thing strictly because I love it, and not for the money . . .
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Uuuuggghhh. I hope you're kidding especially on the second part and I don't need to single you out. Loving it is fine but it has to be partly for the money! This profession should not be sold to the lowest bidders. We all need to have some respect for our profession and sense of worth. That's part of being a PROFESSIONAL!!
 
You're missing my point. If I'm paid a low salary as a regional airline pilot (as it's been for years), while gaining experience and preparing to move on to the next level, that's completely acceptable to me. No kidding!

I DO NOT expect to be paid $70,000 per year flyinf a regional jet. It's never been that way, and I don't expect it to change.

Do I expect a fair wage? Yes! Do I expect to make major airline pay while flying for a regional? Nope.

Partly for the money? Nope, not at all for the money. I got into flying because I love to fly, and I flight instruct because that's part of the industry. That attitude has gotten me pretty far. I'm compensated well (as far as flight instructors go...for the most part) and I get lots of outside flying.

I'm typing this from the Westin in Freeport, all expenses paid PLUS my pay, and I've just spent the week touring the Carribean. I didn't do it for the money, I did it because I love it.

Not the lowest bidder...I just love my job! The compensation comes along if you bust your butt for the right reasons.
 
I am writing to answer some of the questions that you all have asked.

First and foremost, I don’t want to tell anyone where I live or who I work for or who I have worked for. While at this time I don’t intend to make this forum “confessions of a regional airline pilot,” I do realize that this community is rather small, and that it would be very easy to figure out who I am and whom I am employed with. So if you are smart and you know whom I work for or who I am, please keep it to yourself. The more anonymous and safe I feel, the more willing I will be to share my thoughts and comments on these subjects.

First about my flying beginnings:

I started flying in 2001 and was able to receive my private pilots certificate in a relatively short time. I think it was 2 months to the day. I then was able to scrape up enough money to go to ATP. It was there that I received the rest of my training. It was also during this time that that 9/11 took place and my aviation career to an unexpected pause. Up till this point I was on the fast track to somewhere... It seemed that all doors that were open to me before 9/11 were suddenly closed. I was not able to get hired at ATP since they were in a serious downsizing stage, and even then I’m not sure if they would have hired me. While I never failed a check ride or anything, I sort of lived on the fringe of the social norm. I’m not sure if it would have prevented me from working for them or not, but alas I guess I’ll never know.

After finishing ATP I returned home and began the journey of looking for a job. With the help of my primary instructor, I was able to land a job for an extremely shady operation training foreign students. How shady do you ask? Well I was training students from a foreign country who had paid as much as $20,000 to come to the United States and receive private pilot training. Instrument ratings and commercial certificates were more in addition. Apparently this was still less expensive than doing the training in their native country. Want to know how much of that money I actually ever received? $0. I worked for 2 months and logged almost 85 hours of time for not one penny. I was made promises of “the check is in the mail to I’ll give you the check next time I see you.” The owner and operator of this company was living abroad and apparently if I had wished to take legal recourse against him, I would have had to take a number. The straw the broke the camels back for me was when I received a phone call letting me know that I had been listed as the administrator of the CATS testing center. The agent on the phone was making sure I was aware of this and that I was willing to accept the responsibility that was about to be placed on me. Although I had not evidence to prove this, it is my belief that the students had developed a system to cheat on the written tests. Their English was not good, but they could get by in the airspace system. Unless ATC asked, “what are your intentions,” these students were okay with radio skills. However the idea of me being signed up, unbeknownst to me, to be the proctor seemed to relay a message of clear a deception being perpetrated on me.

So with nothing else to fall back on in the aviation community, I quit. I decided to I needed a change. A friend from flight school told me there might be an opportunity to fly for a traffic watch company in his neck of the woods, so I packed up my life and drove halfway across the country. Well sure enough, he was right, but the job required that I have 500 hours total time and I was about 150 away from that. So I took what was left of my loan from flight school and purchased a block of time in a small single engine airplane. This is when things got really interesting. With only 25 hours to go to 500 and my first real paying aviation job on the horizon, I got a phone call. Seems that the FAA had come and grounded the traffic watch plane. This caused the radio station that used it to look further into the situation and they decided they no longer wanted anything to do with an airplane and thus there went my career as a traffic watcher.

Well now I really felt up a creek without a paddle. I didn’t have any money, I didn’t have a job, and I now lived in a place that I didn’t know anything about. It didn’t take me long to start feeling pretty sorry for myself. I attempted to get a job as a CFI at one of the 3 large flight schools on the airport. However, I had not trained at any of these facilities, nor did I know anyone, and needless to say we are talking about a very dark time in aviation hiring history. I had my 85 hours of dual given and apparently that didn’t impress anyone. Plus, it wasn’t like someone could call up my former employer and get an enthusiastic recommendation. I didn’t even have pay stubs to prove I was an employee, (to this day, something I still run into trouble with) One school said I needed to have 500 dual given. Somehow this seemed just a bit out of my reach. I don’t know how it happened but some how I was introduced to a gentleman who ran a club on the airport. Don’t get me wrong it was a club, not a flight school. The club had 3 or 4 airplanes and I pretty much begged him to let me get a club check out as an instructor. The owner was kind enough to let me do it, although to tell you the truth, I was not really as ready as I thought. After a rough flight with the owner he allowed me to become an instructor in the club. I had to drum up my own business, but I could use his planes. I finally got a break.

I now had a place to instruct, but alas I didn’t have a single student. It seemed like a heck of predicament to be in, but one day while shopping around a pilot shop the clerk told me he was an instructor at one the clubs who was currently unable to hire me. He told me that his business was doing great, because he used the shop reel in the potential flying students. After talking to me about 15 minutes, he told me that the owner of the store was looking for another clerk, and that he would recommend me if I liked. I owe this guy everything. After a few weeks of playing phone tag and doing a personal interview with the owner I was hired on at the shop.

The shop gave me as many flying students as I could ever need. Basically I learned how to sell myself, my small club, and all the accessories to make someone a private pilot. Beyond just students this job put me into contact with some many aviation professionals. I was able to fly all sorts of planes with their owners. I met a few famous flyers as well. People from out of town would come in and say, I want to fly here for the day. I did just about anything that would get me into an airplane and making some money. My job at the pilot shop was my stepping-stone. I worked part time at the store and instructed full time at the club. I was busier in the summer of course, but the work stayed pretty consistent. I did this from the middle of spring of 2002 until fall of 2003. I finally had 1200 hours and I decided to try to get a 135 job. I had become attached to the place that I lived, and only wanted to look at companies in my area. The freight operator on the field had a “pay to play” program that they just kept trying to sell me. Although I met their minimums that tried to tell me this was an easy way to become familiar with the planes so I didn’t have to worry about failing out to training. Their quote was, “you’ll never get hired by an airline if you fail out 135 training, and so this is a sure way to pass.” Lucky for me I had learned my lesson about shelling out cash for a job on the end of some hook. I decided not to pursue this company anymore and soon I was hired as a Flight Operations Coordinator/Scheduler for a very good 135 Charter company. Two months before I started they had hired another guy for the same position and he was now a paid SIC in the King Air. I thought for sure this would be my fate. I stayed there six months working ungodly hours for this unfulfilled dream and I probably would have stayed longer if it had not been for a FBO line worker who I trained to get his instrument. One night the line worker was talking to a freighter pilot for a company based in Albuquerque. The pilot said his company was hiring and that they were having a hard time finding qualified pilots. The line worker said he knew that I was looking for a position and raced over to my office and demanded a copy of my resume. I obliged and he took it over to the freighter pilot. About a week later, I got a call from a gentlemen claiming to be the chief pilot for some operation and wanted to know if I could start ground school on Monday. Knowing nothing other than they flew airplanes, I said yes I would be there.

That is how I became a 135-freight pilot. I spend 8 months at that company and I loved almost every minute of it. The flying was so great. While I did have my share of “experiences,” I learned so much about my flying. The first few months I was there I flew a run that absolutely loved. I then transferred bases and began flying some other runs that I enjoyed. The last 2 months I was there I ended up flying a run I just hated, or at least I thought I hated. In hindsight, it wasn’t that bad and had I stayed any longer I could have flown anything I really wanted. My dislike for this one particular run that I was on really accelerated my departure from the freight company. I applied at a few airlines and interviewed with even fewer. My interview skills were not great. I would do okay, but most of the time I would end up saying something I shouldn’t have or something would come out wrong. So when I received the offer to come and work for my current regional I was a bit surprised. However alas, here I am...

I promise to write more later, but I have to run for a flight now…
 
Thanks for posting your experiences. Maybe you should talk to Doug about a "Perspectives" article.
 
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I don't know if there is a solution to low and declining wages of pilots.

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Yes there is. Raise the minimums.

But nobody agrees with me, and it'll never happen anyways, so I won't be able to say, "I told you all so!"
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I think that's a pretty silly idea . . .

I don't mind working for peanuts, when it's in the normal progression of the industry.

Of course, I'm doing this flying thing strictly because I love it, and not for the money . . .
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Wait a few years when you're on a line and have a family to support and "quality of life" takes precedence over flying jets. I know more than anyone that I absolutely have adored flying since I was able to walk, but let's be realistic.
 
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