dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
I'll enjoy watching you make rookie mistakes. But if I make them, just know that I'm simply demonstrating what not to do.
Ever seen a 747 bounce? VS 43 at LGW Gear Issue
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Polar742
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You're senior enough that you'll probably never have to babysit me.
Dan208B
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You'll have to do a SAN trip for grins sometime to get your coffee made by him.
Polar742
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I want to avoid that stuff as much as possible.
Apparently with 747s, so long as the body gear are down, the aircraft should generaally be able to stay upright, as was found with N747PA at SFO in 1971.
And you want to talk bounce? This was a bounce......but due to inability to flare on landing it appears.
And you want to talk bounce? This was a bounce......but due to inability to flare on landing it appears.
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SmoothLanderJ
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Definitely a big bounce on that!
A Life Aloft
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No, the bounce was not a willful act. You are not going to do that intentionally and it would not have helped. Pilot did a good job landing, only got a little squirrley at the end, but he had control.......engines and pods are fine. Makes me wonder what was the issue when the gear was initially retracted (that is attempted to be) in the first place which started this. Whatever the issue was, from enlarged photo I saw in a newspaper article, it was either jammed up (which is what it looked like to me and that may have been a secondary/subsequent issue of the original problem) and/or something failed first. Crap breaks.
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dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
It's nice when you get sick of starting and ending every trip with a deadhead to Asia.
A Life Aloft
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Because during landing, (they struck the approach lights as I remember) the right main gear pierced up into the fuselage, the left gear was ripped nearly off and a large number of pax ran to the back doors, and all of these issues caused her to sit back. Hairy chit.
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I have noticed that most all of the 747s being scrapped here, the engines and outer main landing gear get removed, and the plane sits on its body gear and nose gear for a time, as scrapping continues down to the bottom fuselage.
Polar742
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Doesn't bother me. More rig for less flying? Ok.
A Life Aloft
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Yeppers. The mains are all you need to keep her stable at that point. They are mighty asssed structures. Somebody posted a video on here once a while back that made me so sad. It was in some boneyard out in some desert somewheres and it was gusting pretty good and there a big beautiful girl sat with her engines gone, obviously cleaned out/everything removed inside, and her nose and front gear were lifting up into the wind like she still yearned to fly. Made me sigh. I hate to see them go.
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Polar742
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As I understand it, due to the body gear, the airplane can be loaded with a more aft cg than otherwise would be able. Obviously that is a huge benefit in flight efficiency.
In a normal CG situation the aircraft will sit on its tail if both body gear won't extend.
In a normal CG situation the aircraft will sit on its tail if both body gear won't extend.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
I'll make some calls. There will be more flying for you.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
I never abided by 250 below 10 in my jets for that reason back in the day, wasn't required to.
It would bite some guys later flying other jets, who had gotten too used to this habit.
