ERAU takes a position to reduce safety

Tim Brady, dean of Embry-Riddle's College of Aviation, and other aviation educators said the provision would spur aspiring airline pilots to fulfill the flying time requirement by piloting crop-dusters and towing banners.
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Low blow to the dusters in our profession. . .

Cause you know, getting an AG-Flying job is just so easy.
 
Nice to know the Dean of the "Harvard of the Skies" is so out of teach with aviation that he thinks "crop dusting" is a low time position. Dumbass...
 
If having 250 hour pilots in the cockpit of an RJ is a bad thing, then 250 hour pilots flying ag is a really bad thing.
 
Is it really a step to "reduce" safety as is put in the title of this thread.... or the other way around?

Oh well not so good for the folks at the Riddle.
 
One more reasons I am thankful I decided to not attend ERAU. Thank you JC for showing me the light!!
 
surreal1221 said:
Low blow to the dusters in our profession. . .

Cause you know, getting an AG-Flying job is just so easy.
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I was going to say probably less than 1% of the flight graduates probably have the stick and rudder skills for it, and probably only 1% of those 1% have ever touched farm chemicals in their life.
 
Sounds like the bigwigs at Riddle just couldn't bear to see the demise of their oh-so-valuable "CRJ Transition Course" they get away with charging 4 grand per student for... nevermind that it's in fact just a worthless gimmick that's completely useless for any half-competent pilot who wants to upgrade to a jet... The least this Brady guy could do is stand up there and be honest about his motives, I knew Riddle was primarily out to make $$ but lying in front of the U.S. Congress is a new all time low.
 
seaav8tor said:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/30/AR2009093003002.html

An extra year or so before flying 121.....

Do they have any idea how stupid it makes them look?:drool:
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An extra year? Try 5! How many hours of cross country does one need to get their ATP? 500! On average how many hours does a CFI train a student on cross country procedures? 5-7 hours. So if I do the math:

500 hours/5 hours of cross country per student=100 students

100 students X 40 hours each = 4000 hours??:dunno:


And, yes, there IS a 50nm rule.

Look, I'm all for mandating higher mins, I don't think that anyone belongs in a cockpit of an airline with less than 1500 hours. But the amount of flight time the Colgan pilots had very little or anything to do with what happened. Hell the captain had 3800 hours, and he was the one that screwed the pooch. They were fatigued, poorly paid, working two jobs, poorly trained.

Besides, how much safer will the airlines be if everyone got their ATP in a Duchess and then hopped immediately into a E-170 or a CRJ-900. I would soooo much rather have someone get their ATP on the jet that they're currently flying than, to have someone get it on an aircraft that has 1/8th the complication of a jet. It just doesn't make any sense!

In this case the ATP would be a gateway, not a qualifier, and all it serves is a distraction from the real issue. Crappy training, crappy QOL, and Crappy management.
 
Stratopilot said:
An extra year? Try 5! How many hours of cross country does one need to get their ATP? 500! On average how many hours does a CFI train a student on cross country procedures? 5-7 hours. So if I do the math:

500 hours/5 hours of cross country per student=100 students

100 students X 40 hours each = 4000 hours??:dunno:


And, yes, there IS a 50nm rule.

Look, I'm all for mandating higher mins, I don't think that anyone belongs in a cockpit of an airline with less than 1500 hours. But the amount of flight time the Colgan pilots had very little or anything to do with what happened. Hell the captain had 3800 hours, and he was the one that screwed the pooch. They were fatigued, poorly paid, working two jobs, poorly trained.

Besides, how much safer will the airlines be if everyone got their ATP in a Duchess and then hopped immediately into a E-170 or a CRJ-900. I would soooo much rather have someone get their ATP on the jet that they're currently flying than, to have someone get it on an aircraft that has 1/8th the complication of a jet. It just doesn't make any sense!

In this case the ATP would be a gateway, not a qualifier, and all it serves is a distraction from the real issue. Crappy training, crappy QOL, and Crappy management.
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:pop::pop:

Anybody else want some while I am up?

As far as what I bolded... PTS for the ATP is the same regardless if I take the checkride in a Dutchess or the CRJ. Still have to take the type ride anyways to upgrade...
 
Stratopilot said:
An extra year? Try 5! How many hours of cross country does one need to get their ATP? 500! On average how many hours does a CFI train a student on cross country procedures? 5-7 hours. So if I do the math:

500 hours/5 hours of cross country per student=100 students

100 students X 40 hours each = 4000 hours??:dunno:


And, yes, there IS a 50nm rule.

Look, I'm all for mandating higher mins, I don't think that anyone belongs in a cockpit of an airline with less than 1500 hours. But the amount of flight time the Colgan pilots had very little or anything to do with what happened. Hell the captain had 3800 hours, and he was the one that screwed the pooch. They were fatigued, poorly paid, working two jobs, poorly trained.

Besides, how much safer will the airlines be if everyone got their ATP in a Duchess and then hopped immediately into a E-170 or a CRJ-900. I would soooo much rather have someone get their ATP on the jet that they're currently flying than, to have someone get it on an aircraft that has 1/8th the complication of a jet. It just doesn't make any sense!

In this case the ATP would be a gateway, not a qualifier, and all it serves is a distraction from the real issue. Crappy training, crappy QOL, and Crappy management.
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i have taught nowhere near 100 students, and in only 2yrs of instruction hit the 500 hr xc requirement.
 
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