Envoy To Close NYC (Official)
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Screaming_Emu
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I was contemplating this on a Shuttle/Chataqua ERJ jumpseat yesterday. Those guys flew with hot mic on the entire time, at Acey that's a huge cultural no no.
Funny how something can be standard procedure at one airline but not the other.
Screaming_Emu
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Yup. I used to point out the error in their ways, now I just see it as less competition.
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
Must an ERJ thing. Most of us on the ERJ side keep the hot mic on. Sadly this includes captains that don't want to talk and instead of turning the hot mic off they just flip the mic boom up. Constant hissing is fun... I think.
wheelsup
Well-Known Member
It's common courtesy. Might just be no one ever told him. It should be covered in OE!
Screaming_Emu
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Yeah, on the CRJ we don't like to hear the other guy breathe or eat. It's really a force of habit, even if the headsets are off or I'm in the sim ill reach for the switch when I have something to say.
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
mastermags
Well-Known Member *giggity*
I've heard many times "I dont want to fly right seat for one of those ____________ DL captains." I never heard an FO say that, however.
Fine with me!
If they don't want to be here and are ready to prejudge me, I don't want them in my jet either.
But I do remember when I was a regional pilot, I'd have pooped my pants for joy even if bankrupt TWA hired me. I was under no delusion that my entire world couldn't disappear tomorrow when the paycheck doesn't match the name on the side of the airplane.
scooter2525
Very well Member
On the RJ, do you need to wear headsets?
Screaming_Emu
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You don't have to on the CRJ. I prefer to though. I'd rather it be quiet and I hate using the hand mic.
The ERJ is crazy loud though.
surreal1221
Well-Known Member
AAAAAAAH!
I will say I notice it more by those folks who use ANR type headsets. So darn funny though when they make a cough or sneeze after some silent time and they quickly rush to turn the IC off...usually with a quick apology. Now, the ones who sneeze or cough and don't turn it off or apologize - "Oy Cappy...just about blew out my eardrum #bro. Mind switching that down?"
On longer stage lengths (>2hrs) my headset comes off. Even though I use custom ear models with a MS50/T30 headset, it's just nice to not have anything in my ears for a good hour and change. Most CR7/9 Captains I've flown with over the past two years have a similar philosophy.
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
Starting at the bottom at a peer airline at the majors is a different game, economically, from starting at the bottom at a regional airline.Fine with me!
If they don't want to be here and are ready to prejudge me, I don't want them in my jet either.
But I do remember when I was a regional pilot, I'd have pooped my pants for joy even if bankrupt TWA hired me. I was under no delusion that my entire world couldn't disappear tomorrow when the paycheck doesn't match the name on the side of the airplane.
My reaction would basically be the same, though. A friend of mine who is one of your newly hired SJI coworkers has an interview at "another" major, simply because they were hired at SJI, in a repeat of the regional-level "you've got to have the job to get the job" syndrome.
ClarkGriswold
Non Nutritive Cereal Varnish Engineer
Huh, we never turn the hot mic off.
amorris311
Well-Known Member
Ummm, I do. It's called setting the tone big guy. Do you want to listen to breathing and chewing? As @crazyjaydawg says, just be one of the good guys and turn the mic off.
ClarkGriswold
Non Nutritive Cereal Varnish Engineer
Ive never flown with anyone here who has except for when eating or sneeze/cough. Edit I've flown with one person in DTW that did and it was awkward the whole trip.
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amorris311
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Why was it awkward? You need to hear that deep breathing in your ear at all times?
ClarkGriswold
Non Nutritive Cereal Varnish Engineer
Yes. It soothes me.
No because turning it on and off after every "yes" or "no" trying to have a simple conversation made things even more awkward than they already were with that person. To me it just screams don't talk to me I have the social skills of a fire hydrant or I am a sad angry person. All I know again, is no one I have seen turns it off.
Nick
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Awkward would be, having the notion that the other person is expecting me to talk at any moment, about anything, even though we've just been cruisin' for the past few minutes, minding our jet and it's laid back cruise scene.
Perhaps it's the overall "skipping school" feeling of what I've been flying lately, too. Everyone knows everyone, and it's like being in a bubble, completely detached from the overall operation. Almost like a some corporate flight department...currently in a stretch with one jet over three consecutive days. I'm tempted to leave my Jepps in it, even at the hub.
If we're wearing our headsets, which we're usually not, the mics are most definitely off if we're not talking. The social skills are there, but at the same time we're not each other's entertainment for the three hours between TOC and TOD, day after day.
I'd say it's a base to base thing like that even within different companies, based on the ASA and CHQ observations above. Where I'm still based, for the last seven years everybody has been switching the hot mic off during times of little conversation. I'm glad it's like that; I don't want to hear that hissing!
Perhaps it's also dependent upon the size of one's base. If I'm flying with someone for several days and I just met them, I'm a lot more likely to engage in some conversation. But tomorrow? Flew with him two days ago, and the day before that. And five times next month. We get along great. But I don't think we can come up with seven hours of chit-chat!
Perhaps it's the overall "skipping school" feeling of what I've been flying lately, too. Everyone knows everyone, and it's like being in a bubble, completely detached from the overall operation. Almost like a some corporate flight department...currently in a stretch with one jet over three consecutive days. I'm tempted to leave my Jepps in it, even at the hub.
If we're wearing our headsets, which we're usually not, the mics are most definitely off if we're not talking. The social skills are there, but at the same time we're not each other's entertainment for the three hours between TOC and TOD, day after day.
I'd say it's a base to base thing like that even within different companies, based on the ASA and CHQ observations above. Where I'm still based, for the last seven years everybody has been switching the hot mic off during times of little conversation. I'm glad it's like that; I don't want to hear that hissing!
Perhaps it's also dependent upon the size of one's base. If I'm flying with someone for several days and I just met them, I'm a lot more likely to engage in some conversation. But tomorrow? Flew with him two days ago, and the day before that. And five times next month. We get along great. But I don't think we can come up with seven hours of chit-chat!
amorris311
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You should have talked about home brewing. Also another hot topic is printer paper saving!