Endeavor Air to DL

nyk

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Does working for EA help your chances for working with Delta like Eagle is to American?
 
I think I heard DAL pretty much only hires experienced dispatchers from ASQ, SKW, FLG & GJS. I am sure working for places like ASH, & AWI are helpful too since they operate CRJ's
 
It definitely does just a tad bit. But if you're qualified for the job more than the other guy from a DCI carrier then I don't think that edge really means much anymore.


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I have heard that you are no more special than working for any other regional carrier. You still have to pass the test battery to get to the panel interview.
 
Last 2 classes had no endeavor air dx. Internals, Expressjet, compass, united and plenty of others. A DCI dispatcher may have a very slight edge if they get to the panel interview. But based on the melting pot of those hired, I would doubt it.
 
The reason I ask is because of really like to end up at Delta and want to maximize my opportunity
 
In order to get into mainline you're gonna need at least 3 years experience. I'd say if you can get on with a 121 that has international operation it would ideally improve your chances versus working at Endeavor. But if that's your only offer then so be it.


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In order to get into mainline you're gonna need at least 3 years experience. I'd say if you can get on with a 121 that has international operation it would ideally improve your chances versus working at Endeavor. But if that's your only offer then so be it.

In general, that might be true. However, there are numerous exceptions. I know several people hired externally in the past two years by United, Southwest, and American that had a lot less than three years experience dispatching. Internally, of course, can get you hired with no experience dispatching. It all depends on who you know, what you know, your timing, and what the airline is looking for at that time.

Instead of building experience, building connections is probably a lot more important. You can have 10 years at any regional or supplemental carrier and no major will touch you but that same major will hire someone straight from dispatch school that has the right connections.
 
This gentleman is looking specifically at delta who does have a hard 3 year dispatch requirement for externals. Internals need 3 years operations type experience plus their dispatch license. Then the networking begins!
 
I did see on their last job open that you needed at least three yrs experience. I'm currently at two. I have a few connections but not ones that are willing to really help me so idk about that aspect of getting hired at a major. I'm not a very patient person so idk maybe I'll just have to wait for my time.
 
Since Endeavor has just posted an opening for dispatch, I have to ask this question. DL is totally open about their intention to retire most if not all 50 seat aircraft soon, if not tomorrow. So somebody getting on with Endeavor now would likely become jobless in the near future? Are folks there now even thinking along this line? Or is the best way to think about it, "well, I'll just get some experience and then make a lateral move to another carrier" when 9E condenses down to about half its current size? I would love to see 9E as a way to flow over to Delta eventually, but if that gets cut short by a job loss, what's the point?
 
This gentleman is looking specifically at delta who does have a hard 3 year dispatch requirement for externals. Internals need 3 years operations type experience plus their dispatch license. Then the networking begins!

American had a "hard" one year at AMR requirement for internals until management at AA decided to change that policy to hire a few Eagle dispatchers with less than a year in company. If Delta wants someone with less than 3 years experience, they can and will change that 3 year policy. There is no such thing as a hard requirement. They all change what they want based on the moment they are hiring.

As far as Endeavor, Delta has for now slowed down the CRJ200 retirements and with CRJ900s coming they are not looking at furloughing as of now. But it is definitely something to be concerned about. I also wouldn't bank on getting into Delta by going to Pinnacle. There is no flow from Pinnacle to Delta. Your chances are as good as any other person trying to get in to Delta. Go to Pinnacle for the experience and connections, not for Delta.
 
American had a "hard" one year at AMR requirement for internals until management at AA decided to change that policy to hire a few Eagle dispatchers with less than a year in company. If Delta wants someone with less than 3 years experience, they can and will change that 3 year policy. There is no such thing as a hard requirement. They all change what they want based on the moment they are hiring.

As far as Endeavor, Delta has for now slowed down the CRJ200 retirements and with CRJ900s coming they are not looking at furloughing as of now. But it is definitely something to be concerned about. I also wouldn't bank on getting into Delta by going to Pinnacle. There is no flow from Pinnacle to Delta. Your chances are as good as any other person trying to get in to Delta. Go to Pinnacle for the experience and connections, not for Delta.

Agreed, DL has indeed slowed down the retirement of the 50seaters. I wouldn't expect an experienced person to take on Endeavor solely for the purpose of actually getting flowed into Delta because it doesn't necessarily happen that way. But if you're a newbie then Endeavor would be a great start for the experience and networking of course.


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I started my career at Mesaba...which became part of Pinch-a-Nickle, now renamed Endeavor, and I can honestly say, that the experience I gained there was invaluable. Do not pick a carrier solely based on "flow opportunities", rather go to a carrier to gain experience and become a good dispatcher. Once you do that, than start worrying about working at a major. As far as networking, yes that is an important piece, but just because you know a manager here, or a manager there, will not make them take you over a person with say 5 or 6 years of experience. It may work at the smaller carriers (National, Southern, World, North American) but not at SWA, DL, US/AA.
 
Last 2 classes had no endeavor air dx. Internals, Expressjet, compass, united and plenty of others. A DCI dispatcher may have a very slight edge if they get to the panel interview. But based on the melting pot of those hired, I would doubt it.

There was one from Pinnacle/Endeavor hired in the last class.
 
There was one from Pinnacle/Endeavor hired in the last class.

No one in the last 2 classes listed on the bios (on our internal site) were from 9e.
On that note, each of the last 3 classes had some from expressjet.

There is a small handful of PinchNickel refugees here, but working there does not help anyone get on here. For externals, it's all about experience and resume.
Resumes are scored, and the top bunch are sent for testing. Only those who pass all 3 tests - regardless of who you know - get interviewed.
 
In general, that might be true. However, there are numerous exceptions. I know several people hired externally in the past two years by United, Southwest, and American that had a lot less than three years experience dispatching. Internally, of course, can get you hired with no experience dispatching. It all depends on who you know, what you know, your timing, and what the airline is looking for at that time.

Instead of building experience, building connections is probably a lot more important. You can have 10 years at any regional or supplemental carrier and no major will touch you but that same major will hire someone straight from dispatch school that has the right connections.

I am not aware of us ever lowering the experience threshold for externals below 3 years. There is no need to: hundreds apply each time we post.
 
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