Embry Riddle Pilot Lands With Oil Covered Windshield

It's always tough when you have multiple of the same type aircraft with same paint jobs. Once gave an RJ into ECP the traffic to follow which he called in sight, so I cleared him and switched him. Except he had the T6 at his 4 o'clock in sight, not the T6 at his 1 o'clock 4 miles in trail of the first one. It was not a comfortable moment for me. Now I always give traffic on both and specify which one to follow (#1 or #2)
 
Happed to me more than once:

Me: Left base rwy XX
Twr: You traffic to follow is 12 o'clock on a two mile final
Me: In sight
(short pause)
Twr: SomeoneElse, your traffic is over the numbers, cleared to land
Me: ???

Turns out what I though 2 nm final was more like 1nm, and my traffic to follow was really at my 2 o'clock

I'll make a mental note to file ASRS next time it happens. Those calls ought to include all traffic ahead of me.
 
NovemberEcho said:
It's always tough when you have multiple of the same type aircraft with same paint jobs. Once gave an RJ into ECP the traffic to follow which he called in sight, so I cleared him and switched him. Except he had the T6 at his 4 o'clock in sight, not the T6 at his 1 o'clock 4 miles in trail of the first one. It was not a comfortable moment for me. Now I always give traffic on both and specify which one to follow (#1 or #2)
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Which is why alot of times I wont call traffic in sight even though i most likely see him. i know we pilots get eye rolls about that probably in the tower but Its to easy to make a mistake like that going into a busy airport with parallel runways thinking you have the correct one in sight when it turns out hes going to the other runway.
 
MikeD said:
There was a midair in the pattern of two Riddle 172s 25 years ago, one a dual crew, the other a solo student on his second solo, I believe. Dual crew misidentified company traffic while on an opposite downwind to base. Collided with the solo student. Solo student's main landing gear strut and wheel went through then front windscreen of the dual crew and the tire smacked the CFI in the head. The two planes were stuck together for a moment with their wings smacking into one another before separating. Dual crew smacked the ground short of the runway. Solo student landed his plane. No fatalities.

Dual plane a write-off, solo plane heavily damaged but repaired.
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There was a midair between two UND planes in 1991. Both Warriors reported over the same reporting point at the same time. The propeller of one made a couple slashes in the stabilator of the other. No one knew they actually hit until a while later after the next student saw the slashes on the preflight. Then it took more researching to find out exactly what happened.

Here's both NTSB reports:
https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/R...tID=20001212X16763&AKey=1&RType=HTML&IType=LA
https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/R...tID=20001212X16763&AKey=2&RType=HTML&IType=LA
 
MikeD said:
There was a midair in the pattern of two Riddle 172s 25 years ago, one a dual crew, the other a solo student on his second solo, I believe. Dual crew misidentified company traffic while on an opposite downwind to base. Collided with the solo student. Solo student's main landing gear strut and wheel went through then front windscreen of the dual crew and the tire smacked the CFI in the head. The two planes were stuck together for a moment with their wings smacking into one another before separating. Dual crew smacked the ground short of the runway. Solo student landed his plane. No fatalities.

Dual plane a write-off, solo plane heavily damaged but repaired.
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I remember that. The solo was a classmate of mine. Last I heard (about 20yrs ago), he was selling Lexuses in Scottsdale...

My favorite part of the accident was the tower tape:

“RIDDLE XX IS GOING DOWN! RIDDLE XX IS GOING DOWN!”

“Uhh, Roger Riddle XX, you’re cleared to land 21L...”

Priceless!
 
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