Eagle vote 70% NO with 92% participation

With the massive amount of retirements over the next several years combined with mainline and LCC growth(Spirit!),no current regional pilot be left out in the cold. Look no further than Endeavor, who went from planning to furlough 400 to planning to hire 400.

Regional Pilots have an unprecedented amount of leverage right now.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
If other people want to keep passing out rose colored glasses, I think it's only responsible for someone else to hand out clear ones.
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I think most people on here have a pretty healthy understanding of what is going on.

So for those of us who are going to have to live with the consequences, you're pretty much debbie downer.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
You know, folks, when you replace 50 seaters with 150 seaters, and there is no capacity increase, the number of jobs just shrunk by two thirds. Sure, the jobs that are left are better jobs, but a lot of people are left out in the cold.

Not saying that it's not a good thing. Just pointing out that everything won't be roses like some people think.
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Currently 50 seaters are being replaced by 115 seaters, and at a company that doesn't think that less than 10 pilots per plane is proper staffing. So... well your math is considerably off thus far. :)

Oh, and drawing conclusions off of what Trip7 says isn't super accurate... he was on the Delta thread at APC the other day saying that malaria is no worse than the flu. (sorry bro... that was quite the faux pas!)
 
PeanuckleCRJ said:
Currently 50 seaters are being replaced by 115 seaters, and at a company that doesn't think that less than 10 pilots per plane is proper staffing. So... well your math is considerably off thus far. :)
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There aren't too many regionals that staff at less than 10 pilots per plane, either. Besides, staffing is done on block hours, not on planes.

Oh, and drawing conclusions off of what Trip7 says isn't super accurate
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You don't have to look too far to see that his fantasy of regional leverage is widely believed.
 
Trip7 said:
Regional Pilots have an unprecedented amount of leverage right now.
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Not so fast. They could shut down he regionals faster, much much faster, than they grew when gas was cheap.

We have leverage with regionals right now, but from what pot to draw from?
 
The leverage only exists to the extent of the pilot group being able to vote down stupid contracts. In the end, it could kill the regionals, and put pilots on the street. Not saying it shouldn't happen, maybe it needs to happen but there's only so much a regional can give up before it breaks. The majors are just as guilty for paying regionals minimum amounts of money to cover the flying...
 
I wouldn't exactly use the term "guilty." They're paying the price that the benefit of the feed justifies. Paying more isn't profitable, so it wouldn't be worthwhile.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
I wouldn't exactly use the term "guilty." They're paying the price that the benefit of the feed justifies. Paying more isn't profitable, so it wouldn't be worthwhile.
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It can be profitable. Mainline just doesn't want to do what it takes to make it profitable. A few extra dollars on the fare can make a large difference.
 
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