Dress Codes for airplane trips

Back to the original post, are you serious? Do you play flightsim on your laptop in the terminal while waiting for flights? Do you tell every pilot in uniform that you're a pilot?

I've never considered "dressing up" so I can get shoved in a tiny seat between two fat people. I don't need to dress up, I take pride in my appearance and don't need to do much to look acceptable. I couldn't care less what people are wearing in the airplane, and I've never considered altering my wardrobe so I can dress up to ride as a passenger in an airplane.
 
Face it, flying isn't what it used to be.

If you want to be with people who dress nicely, pay for first class.

You cant expect people to dress nicely when they pay 50 bucks for a ticket halfway across the country.

As for me, I only non-rev, thus i dress nicely.

Im a pilot too, but i'm a Private Pilot, so what happens on commercial aircraft doesn't affect or bother me.

So i guess it's not my or your "realm."
 
BrewMaster said:
Back to the original post, are you serious? Do you play flightsim on your laptop in the terminal while waiting for flights? Do you tell every pilot in uniform that you're a pilot?

I've never considered "dressing up" so I can get shoved in a tiny seat between two fat people. I don't need to dress up, I take pride in my appearance and don't need to do much to look acceptable. I couldn't care less what people are wearing in the airplane, and I've never considered altering my wardrobe so I can dress up to ride as a passenger in an airplane.
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Nice post there, buddy. I guess accusing people of acting like a flight sim kiddie is the cool thing to do. No, I do not play flight sim in the terminal, no I do not tell pilots that I fly, and no I do not "dress up". My only point is that I think people should have an attire a tad better than flip flops/baggy shorts/t-shirt.
 
Even if I bought a ticket I wear slacks and a collared shirt just because I generally take pride in my appearance but that's just me.
 
Top hat and tails, white gloves, a monocle and a walking cane old chap. I smoke a pipe on board and the flight crew never bother me - only to top up my scotch.
 
at1024 said:
I went to the Smithsonian Air and Space museum a couple of weeks ago and there was a section on the history of commercial air travel, and in it I learned that back in the 50s/60s flying commercially was a HUGE deal for people. Men usually wore suits and women wore dresses. Everyone was served a meal during the flight. They used REAL utensils, not the plastic ones. From what I understand being a pilot, and the whole pax experience, was quite glamorous back then. Funny how things have changed.

I agree with the OP on this one, that certain class needs to be restored to the industry. We've lost it somewhere. Flying is a right, not a privilege.
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Damn...I'm so old I remember the good old days where people dressed in their "Sunday best" to fly somewhere. Relatives also accompanied their kin and friends to the airport (to the gate, actually!) for the proper sendoff and welcome home. Ah, those were fun times. Unfortunately, the steamroller of the casualization (is that even a word? lol!) of America cannot be reversed. :(
 
Kestrel452 said:
Nice post there, buddy. I guess accusing people of acting like a flight sim kiddie is the cool thing to do. No, I do not play flight sim in the terminal, no I do not tell pilots that I fly, and no I do not "dress up". My only point is that I think people should have an attire a tad better than flip flops/baggy shorts/t-shirt.
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You don't get out much, I can't go ANYWHERE without seeing someone in flip flops/baggy shorts/t-shirt, that's what people wear. Anything "a tad better" would be considered dressing up. I will say that I agree with wearing attire that doesn't hinder a person in any way, I don't want anything hindering my cat-like reflexes and ninja-like stealthness if the plane does get into trouble, but I could probably move faster in flip flops and shorts than if I had a polo and slacks riding up my crack....
 
Kestrel452 said:
If you go on a plane and the passenger somehow finds out you are a pilot, their mindset towards pilots as a whole is diminished seeing as how they don't come well groomed even to their own realm.
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Not everybody goes around informing the whole cabin that they're a pilot. Most of us casually smile and hold our tongue while the guy next to pretends to know what he's talking about.
If you think people's perceptions of pilots are affected by the way they dress as passengers feel free to wear epaulets and a black clip-on tie. That way everybody can say "wow, he's a pilot!" as you trundle your way back to seat 38G. Then, when people sitting next to you ask questions you can grin, stick out your chest and say "Well, in the warrior we do this...."

I work the front desk at a hotel. Should I have to wear a blazer and tie when I'm staying at another hotel? Does a hotel employee wearing pajamas in a hotel "degrade the entire hotel industry?"
 
If the airlines bring back the free hot meals and free booze, I might consider "dressing up" to fly as a pax. If you expect class, offer it.

Now, if I were flying Intl First or Business class, then I feel like it's appropriate to look like you belong there.

I grew up in the days where you had to wear a coat and tie, even in coach, in order to use pass travel on Delta; it sucked. They eventually relaxed The policy to business casual on the weekends, then for coach everyday, then for all cabins everyday, and finally they essentially eliminated the dress code altogether. I say wear what you want if you bought the ticket, but the culture shifted among paying passengers as flying was no longer something special any more than taking the bus.
 
Kestrel452 said:
Do you guys as pilots feel like your job is being degraded of its prestige by people showing up in baggy pants and t-shirts? Do you feel it is disrespectful? I know I would feel that way.
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No. I feel the prestige of my job is being downgraded by regional pilots who are willing to work for 18-20K a year. I feel the prestige of my profession is being degraded by cheaper ill-managed airlines undercutting each other and doing so by taking concessions from their pilots and employees to save a buck.

My last corporate job was flying for a Texas investments firm that specialized in selling ranch land. My attire was a cowboy hat, sleeveless muscle shirt, and shorts. The millionaire clients/boss loved it, and so did I. Very relaxed atmosphere. Also, that job paid 4 times what a starting regional pilot makes and no, I don't at all feel the prestige of the profession was downgraded by it.

If I were doing it for 20K by undercutting someone more experienced to get it...that would be a different story...
 
Kestrel -

I just don't understand what you're getting all worked up about. Prices reflect the quality of the purchascer buying. If you sell tickets for $1.87 you're going to get poverty level people along with poverty level dress.

If you sell tickets at $2000 you're going to get elitists and elite dress.

Don't blame the passengers for who they are, and definitely don't be telling me what to wear. I'm my own person and you cannot run my life. Deal with it.
 
moxiepilot said:
Kestrel -

I just don't understand what you're getting all worked up about. Prices reflect the quality of the purchascer buying. If you sell tickets for $1.87 you're going to get poverty level people along with poverty level dress.

If you sell tickets at $2000 you're going to get elitists and elite dress.

Don't blame the passengers for who they are, and definitely don't be telling me what to wear. I'm my own person and you cannot run my life. Deal with it.
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Sorry to disagree, but money doesn't buy class. Never has---never will. I've seen rich people and their spoiled rotten children look like slobs and poorer people have some pride in what they wear.
 
When I travel as a revenue passenger, I could care less if it's flip-flops, boonie hat, tennis shorts and a t-shirt. I'm the passenger. Take me to my destination, or I'll take my money to a competing airline.
 
I wore jeans, t-shirt, and old work boots on my instrument checkride. Some claim you need to "show respect", but for gods sake we're flying a c-150 off a grass strip.
 
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