Dreamlifter lands at wrong airport and can't take off

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Hacker15e said:
I've spent a good amount of time flying instrument approaches into McConnell (it is a location where we often take students to practice instrument work away from home station).

Most of the time the radar pattern at McConnell is to the west, and the base leg typically has us flying east about 9 or 10 miles out from the runway, with BCT at our 12:30 to one o'clock and IAB at our 2 o'clock or so. From that perspective, it is really difficult to mix the two up.

BCT is a comparatively big runway, though, and with the same orientation as IAB. I can see that if you were on a very long final from the north or the south (but especially from the northeast, like the Atlas crew did) at night, and NOT backing yourself up with the Localizer, how you could bite off on it.
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You are obviously a troll because you said it's difficult to mix up landing at an AFB that lit up like a christmas tree and a small GA airport.
 
Yup, let's keep blaming poor aviating on fatigue. Two damn pilots, a highly automated jet, and you land at the wrong airport. Once you land you think you're actually at another airport, but are wrong about that too. A complete and total lack of SA.

Forget taking responsibility for screwing the pouch, let's just blame it on fatigue!
 
Us pros put the runway in the PROG page so you have a continuous countdown to the runway. When you are on short final and the PROG page shows 10 miles to go..... that's called "a clue".
 
jhugz said:
Yup, let's keep blaming poor aviating on fatigue. Two damn pilots, a highly automated jet, and you land at the wrong airport. Once you land you think you're actually at another airport, but are wrong about that too. A complete and total lack of SA.

Forget taking responsibility for screwing the pouch, let's just blame it on fatigue!
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The wussification and victimization of this country continues loud and clear on this forum. It's not their fault... they were VICTIMS of fatigue!
 
Out and Proud said:
Ahhh... the JC clique strikes again. If you're not a flaming left wing libtard that takes zero personal responsibility for anything and that big government can and should fix everything, you are a troll.
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It's more so the way you condescend in every post. You might be taken more seriously if you didn't.....

Also, one day you are going to make a big mistake and someone just like you is going to come along and demand your head on a plate before they know all the facts as well. Hopefully it's some dude on a forum instead of your boss.
 
TWP said:
It's more so the way you condescend in every post. You might be taken more seriously if you didn't.....

Also, one day you are going to make a big mistake and someone just like you is going to come along and demand your head on a plate before they know all the facts as well. Hopefully it's some dude on a forum instead of your boss.
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If I was to be so STUPID as to land at the WRONG airport, then I'd have no problem taking what I'm giving out now.
 
jhugz said:
Yup, let's keep blaming poor aviating on fatigue. Two damn pilots, a highly automated jet, and you land at the wrong airport. Once you land you think you're actually at another airport, but are wrong about that too. A complete and total lack of SA. Forget taking responsibility for screwing the pouch, let's just blame it on fatigue!
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That's right, because you are a sky god and could never possibly make a mistake. But I'm sure you have plenty of long haul cargo experience. Oh wait, you fly 2 hours at a time in a metro. Never mind.
 
Out and Proud said:
If I was to be so STUPID as to land at the WRONG airport, then I'd have no problem taking what I'm giving out now.
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Based on your ability to make judgements without all the facts (as evidenced in this thread), I look forward to reading your post about said event!

See, I can be condescending and holier than thou in my posts as well.
 
Out and Proud said:
If I was to be so STUPID as to land at the WRONG airport, then I'd have no problem taking what I'm giving out now.
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Two types of people in aviation.....Those that have mades mistakes and those THAT WILL !!! (or something like that...)
 
Getting back to the topic at hand:

According to the audio, the pilot checks in on the GPS approach. And we all know what happened next.

Not being a pilot, could someone fill in the blanks on some possibilities as to what the options are from point A to B?

IE, set up for the approach, freq change to the tower. See the airport, and fly the remainder visually? Or do you fly it in regardless of visually having the airport? Or, is it your choice?

I'm not trying to pick, I'm just genuinely attempting to educate myself a little here.
 
This is a pretty silly conversation. These guys didn't crash the airplane because they can't fly their way out of a wet paper bag. They landed fine. Just kind of in the wrong place. Show me a guy who's never driven towards a well-lit shopping mall or main drag on a nighttime visual and I'll show you a liar. To equate this to the examples of absolute gross incompetence we've all seen which DID result in a loss of life does a disservice to those incidents. Did they F up? Obviously, hugely. And I wish them well in their new careers at Home Depot. But, jesus, everybody walked away. A little bit of Perspective, anyone?
 
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