av8tr1
"Never tell me the odds!"
Unpublished holds, the stuff of nightmares.
Doing it Better
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Unpublished holds, the stuff of nightmares.
Soul Brotha'
Off to go do Black guy stuff
When I took my ATP ride in a Seminole years ago, I had forgotten how to file an IFR flight plan and had to ask some kid working on is instrument to help me out. Almost busted the oral because the fuel was in gallons not pounds. Airline life and especially being a FO makes life pretty simple.
NovemberEcho
Dergs favorite member
I try to keep them simple, cardinal radials (360,090 etc), 10 mile legs, standard turns. And admittedly some controllers give you guys terrible entry setups. You'll be tracking a 230 heading to the VOR and they tell you to hold on the 090 radial. Bad juju.
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
Does your fancy G600 not draw a hold for ya?
av8tr1
"Never tell me the odds!"
You know.....I’ve been told it does but no one at my company knows how to do it. I’ve read all the manuals and haven’t found anything about it either.
I’ve got an app that I use for it when it comes up. But then I have to go from using the g600 using the steam gauge. No big deal but it really divides your attention in IMC.
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
15 year old Chelton EFIS flies a nice coupled holding pattern with a few buttons and twists. Especially if they give you “standard turns, on your inbound course”. Same for Honeywell Apex in the Swiss Army Knife.
av8tr1
"Never tell me the odds!"
I don’t get to pick the equipment I fly with. Heck I can’t even (legally) use an iPad. Still like the job and the airplane though.
Flyinthrew
Well-Known Member
Systems, aerodynamics, and CRM. I could talk about how it's stupid silly that those I fly with don't know how to depart an uncontrolled field on an IFR clearance or that they don't know how to hold a DME arc without an RMI or HSI, but I'd say the biggest bang for the buck for advanced learning is learning systems, particularly those aspects which are affected during common emergency procedures, aerodynamics of your particular platform (especially with certain systems failed), and CRM. Basically all of the things you really need to know or use when it's time to deviate from a normal situation.
Apophis
Resident Iconoclast
Wow. That's crazy. It is surprising to me how different each feeder is in regards to stuff like this sometimes. I think we are the only Feeder with the EFB OpSpec(A061).....and we converted the last of our last steam gauge/booted vans a long time ago.
bLizZuE
Calling for engine starts en français
Descent planning.
Workload management (no we shouldn’t single engine taxi to the runway when we need 5 minutes warm up and it’s a short taxi).
Interpersonal skills (it’s considered polite to shake hands and introduce yourself when we get in a cockpit together).
Be the captain, don’t be my best friend.
Workload management (no we shouldn’t single engine taxi to the runway when we need 5 minutes warm up and it’s a short taxi).
Interpersonal skills (it’s considered polite to shake hands and introduce yourself when we get in a cockpit together).
Be the captain, don’t be my best friend.
trafficinsight
Well-Known Member
Can't it be both? Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk
86BravoPapa
Well-Known Member
Can you walkthrough descent planning. That's an area I feel is under discussed in flight training. I understand why; not tons of prep to descend 3,000 feet at 105kts in a 172. But I'd still like to learn more about the process.
86BravoPapa
Well-Known Member
Any books you recommend on aerodynamics?
subpilot
Squawking 7600
Mine is “advise when ready to copy a phone number.”
DeltaAlphaNovember
Well-Known Member
I can't say what a good book for aerodynamics would be, but I would recommend reading Everything Explained for the Professional Pilot. It covers all aspects of flying. And the guy who wrote it did some of my training at my former 135 gig.
av8tr1
"Never tell me the odds!"
Apophis
Resident Iconoclast
You guys hiring?I miss my ipad.
Hah, we sure are!
av8tr1
"Never tell me the odds!"
Just for us poor crazy helicopter pilots. Actually all kidding aside that's probably where my fear of unpublished holds comes from. Imagine single pilot VMC only helicopter with no autopilot. Pilot has both hands on cyclic and collective, feet on the pedals and over the radio said pilot hears "advise when ready to copy holding instructions".
I got that once and told them ok let me find a place to land so I can get a pad and paper and a free hand to write with. I'm right handed and can't write for chit or hold a cyclic with my left. Needless to say after the controller stopped laughing they gave me vectors for the hold. Hell he could have just had me slow down to 30 knots and saved everyone the hassle.
True story I made Bush Jr. vector around me in Air Force 1 when I was cross country in a 152 near Frederick MD. Made the controllers year to tell me that he had to vector AF1 because I was so slow.