Do you have to read back altimeter setting once handed off to a new controller?

[ClearedToTakeoff]

According to the Pilot / Controller Glossary, what does a double click signify?

signifies that it wasn't read.

 

[crfguy51]

You don't ident unless instructed to do so.

"When requested of course.."

 

[Bernoulli Fan]

signifies that it wasn't read.

A lot of other controllers don't seem to like the double click. In fact, when it happens, at least in my area, you usually yell out "THE DOUBLE CLICKER" or something similar. But we yell out a lot in my area.

I personally don't mind the double click acknowledgement. Of course it's not in the AIM, but it's surely among the least of the offenses we commit daily.

 

[Maurus]

I don't believe the controller is at all responsible considering it isn't a clearance. If a deviation occured, it would be on the pilot and to deviate because of altimeter setting is pretty tough considering I don't recall a sector ever changing more than .1" (100') from another sector.

I have seriously gone from 30.10 to 29.70 within 100 miles.

The real trick is to get into the flight levels so you don't have to worry about it.

 

[Jpax]

I usually just read back the digits...especially in situations like this.

 

[amorris311]

You are kidding?

 

[Roger Roger]

Just friggin read it back.

 

[derg]

Set it, read it back. A lot less hassle than dialing-in something you think you heard and screwing something up.

 

[matthew]

I read it back unless its 30.06 in which case its the controllers lucky day cause I read back thirty aught six. I'm clever.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

You don't ident unless instructed to do so.

Ding ding ding ding ding we have a winner! You operate the transponder as instructed by ATC.

 

[crfguy51]

Ding ding ding ding ding we have a winner! You operate the transponder as instructed by ATC.

Obviously......

My question was that if you are assigned a new code and IDENT, is any read back necessary? or is the act of hitting indent with he new code considered "acknowledgment."?

And as I have now found out per the 7110.65 a verbal read-back is not required.

 

[FM_Weasel]

It can take several sweeps of the radar to notice your beacon code change and ident. Long enough to create an awkward silence on frequency after ATC issues you the instruction. I'd at least reply with "Callsign, Roger."

Again this is less about the importance of reading back the instruction verbatim, and more about letting us know that you even received the instruction in the first place.

 

[Zondaracer]

ICAO doc 9432 says all altimeter settings must be readback... But I'm not sure what the FAR/AIM says. I'll take a look tomorrow

 

[FM_Weasel]

I didn't know pilots were required to read anything back ever. Other than maybe hold short instructions (the onus is still on the controller to ensure a readback is received, not on the pilot to give it).

 

[fholbert]

Just read it back, you're saving airtime. Other wise 7 other pilots are waiting for you to acknowledge the altimeter before they transmit.

 

[spoolinup22]

On the topic of IDENT, what do you controllers see if someone IDENTS?

 

[amorris311]

I believe your tag flashes on their scope.

 

[Bernoulli Fan]

On the topic of IDENT, what do you controllers see if someone IDENTS?

At a center, the target, which is usually a slash, changes to three horizontal lines in a stack for two or three updates.

 

[spoolinup22]

At a center, the target, which is usually a slash, changes to three horizontal lines in a stack for two or three updates.

ahh gotcha...so does that get annoying if someone keeps hitting ident?

 

[FM_Weasel]

It can be annoying. On terminal radar scopes, it blinks ID on the target's tag. Excessive blinking is annoying.

Also, if I'm using the IDENT method of radar identifying an aircraft, and another pilot also IDENTS, I have to use another method to identify the intended aircraft due to Questionable Identification procedures.