flyTotheSky
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Last month I was cited for "Improper Lane Usage". It is my first ever type of driving citation. Do I need to report this to the FAA immediately or should I wait until my next medical?
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Do I need to report this to the FAA?
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VicariousLiving
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flyTotheSky said:
So long as there was no drivers license suspension possible (i.e. no automatic suspension for this offense nor driving points score for this offense taking you driving points total over the top to a cumulative points created suspension) and there were no drugs, alcohol, or other mind bending materials involved, then there isn't anything to report to the FAA for a misdomeanor traffic offense.
flyTotheSky
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Swen,
Haha, I didn't know it existed either! I was changing lanes and at the same time a guy was speeding up to try and cut me off...nevertheless -we hit each other...I got the ticket. Who knows? I was pissed to say the least...
Anyone else have any stories like this?
Haha, I didn't know it existed either! I was changing lanes and at the same time a guy was speeding up to try and cut me off...nevertheless -we hit each other...I got the ticket. Who knows? I was pissed to say the least...
Anyone else have any stories like this?
AlexF
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I believe it's an "open" law where it is up to interpretation. Basically, you can get it for things like: linger in highway passing lanes, using an emergency access road or going in and out of a lane. This is often coupled with a DUI because many people who are drunk swerve and can't stay inside their own lane.Swen said:
Theotokos
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flyTotheSky said:
Yeah, I do. The other day coming back from flying I was not really paying attention (yes, I pay attention in the air before you ask) and I saw I was approaching a red light. I knew I could not stop so I sped up to get through. A guy honks at me angrily and with good reason. A few minutes later I see a cop beside me and see he is honking his little horn. I pull over and he says, "You know why I pulled you over don't you? You sped through that light at a high rate of speed. Why?"
"Because I did not see it."
"Then why did you go faster?"
"Because I could not stop in time."
"Okay. I need to see your licsence and insurance."
He looks at them, goes back, and writes the ticket.
He comes back and says, "What you did was illegal. You could have killed or injured someone. I could have arrested you for wreckless driving. But I am just going to give you the ticket."
Oddly, he wrote on the ticket, "Vehicle was stopped for several seconds before proceeding through light at high rate of speed." The reason I ran through it though is because I did not think I could STOP in time. Oh well, that is what court is for. I admit I ran it, but not how he said.
My wreck was like that too. I throught it was a four way stop so I crossed the road and was hit. I told the cop this and he told me to "slow down". It's like I had just begun to pull out into the intersection. I was NOT speeding. Are you stupid or somthing? I didn't say that, but that is what I was thinking. It's like gee, I just told you why I pulled out like that. I guess some cops do not understand or somthing.
sorrygottarunway
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Theotokos said:
That is why they are cops and not brain surgeons or scientists.
WOW! i'm surprised.. you got really lucky there...you should be thanking your lucky stars! not only did you not die or cause someone else's death, you got away with "just" a ticket. Running that red light was a really stupid move, i'd suggest looking in your rearview mirror and if you don't have anyone behind you or they're far enough away...slam on the brakes next time!Theotokos said:
were you actually approaching a full on red light or green turned yellow? yellow lights are typically 3 to 4 seconds in length...plenty of time to make a judgement to stop..you must have really been zoning! haha
too many red light runners in this world and I dunno why most of them don't give a damn!!
as far as the other accident, it could be that the cop noticed that you *might* not of looked in "all" directions before making the decision to move forward or did the other guy run the stop sign? either way, it's called "defensive" driving for a reason right?! you can't trust any driver out there!!
*sorry, just ticks me off some cuz it seems like the only thing that bothered you was getting a ticket and not so much the fact that someone could have *easily* been killed!!
Maximilian_Jenius
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Kristie said:WOW! i'm surprised.. you got really lucky there...you should be thanking your lucky stars! not only did you not die or cause someone else's death, you got away with "just" a ticket. Running that red light was a really stupid move, i'd suggest looking in your rearview mirror and if you don't have anyone behind you or they're far enough away...slam on the brakes next time!
were you actually approaching a full on red light or green turned yellow? yellow lights are typically 3 to 4 seconds in length...plenty of time to make a judgement to stop..you must have really been zoning! haha
too many red light runners in this world and I dunno why most of them don't give a damn!!
as far as the other accident, it could be that the cop noticed that you *might* not of looked in "all" directions before making the decision to move forward or did the other guy run the stop sign? either way, it's called "defensive" driving for a reason right?! you can't trust any driver out there!!
*sorry, just ticks me off some cuz it seems like the only thing that bothered you was getting a ticket and not so much the fact that someone could have *easily* been killed!!
Ughhhhh tell me bout it Kristie. I was just in traffic school on Saturday for 8 hrs. I got a ticket for photo radar but in Mesa not on the 101. We went over red light violations in great detail with graphic pictures. These incidents happen more often then people think and they are/can be very dangerous.
ETAV8R
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That is what Ticket Assassin is for. I am still waiting to find out my penalty for speeding on the way to the Edwards AFB air show.
Said he was pacing me. I doubt it. I am usually very attentive to my mirrors and traffic around me. I was going downhill at the time too.
Shhhh, I wasn't going the speed limit.
Either was anyone else. Does that make it ok? No. But I am fighting it anyway.
Don't show up to court if you are in Cali.
Said he was pacing me. I doubt it. I am usually very attentive to my mirrors and traffic around me. I was going downhill at the time too.
Shhhh, I wasn't going the speed limit.
Either was anyone else. Does that make it ok? No. But I am fighting it anyway.
Don't show up to court if you are in Cali.
Kristie said:WOW! i'm surprised.. you got really lucky there...you should be thanking your lucky stars! not only did you not die or cause someone else's death, you got away with "just" a ticket. Running that red light was a really stupid move, i'd suggest looking in your rearview mirror and if you don't have anyone behind you or they're far enough away...slam on the brakes next time!
were you actually approaching a full on red light or green turned yellow? yellow lights are typically 3 to 4 seconds in length...plenty of time to make a judgement to stop..you must have really been zoning! haha
too many red light runners in this world and I dunno why most of them don't give a damn!!
as far as the other accident, it could be that the cop noticed that you *might* not of looked in "all" directions before making the decision to move forward or did the other guy run the stop sign? either way, it's called "defensive" driving for a reason right?! you can't trust any driver out there!!
*sorry, just ticks me off some cuz it seems like the only thing that bothered you was getting a ticket and not so much the fact that someone could have *easily* been killed!!
Yeesh, you'd hate Okinawa! On this island, the locals will drive 10 under the speed limit, but as soon as that light turns yellpw, they'll speed up to Mach 1 neverminding that the light changed to red 10 seconds ago.
Dumb, dumber, and even more dumb still...
Judging lights is an essential skill required for the first point of the Smith System of Defensive Driving - "Aim High in Steering." To "aim high," one must be constantly looking ahead of the vehicle, anticipating where it will be 2, 5, 10, 15, 20 seconds down the road. It involves looking straight ahead if the road is straight, it involves looking around corners if the road bends, it involves looking at the taillights of vehicles ahead of you if they block your view of where you anticipate you will be, and it involves looking at intersections through which you will pass. Seeing what's ahead, and judging the obstacles that you will negotiate, you must adjust your speed and direction to ensure you will pass through safely. It requires your ACTIVE attention at all times. It is not something you can do while you're daydreaming.
If you're NOT actively seeking a safe path to travel, you may as well be waving a loaded pistol amongst a crowd of strangers, randomly squeezing the trigger to see if anyone gets killed. Your car is just as deadly, and physics doesn't discriminate.
Before you sit behind the steering wheel and turn on the ignition, make a conscious decision to drive responsibly - - that is, take responsibility for your actions.
I don't know why it is that people think there's a good reason to lie - - about anything. If you want to really annoy a police officer, start out by lying to him. He'll appreciate the insult to his intelligence so much that he'll do his best to accomodate you with a citation.
Did it ever occur to you that you might have been released with a verbal warning if you had just admitted your mistake? The fact that you made the mistake was not up for debate. When you lied about it, you cemented in his mind the need for you to be cited, because you need to learn a lesson. I'm not sure it would have been the best course of action in this case, knowing your actions and intents, but he might have preferred to hear your honest apology so he could get back to the jelly donut in his car. But there's no way that he can let it slide if you add insult to injury by making up some lame excuse.
Did you really expect him to use the reason you gave him? You started out by lying, why should he trust a word you say?
The fifth and final point of the Smith System of Defensive Driving is "Make Sure They See You." Whether you're right or wrong, physics will always be in effect. No two objects can occupy the same space at the same time. If the othr car was coming towards the intersection and didn't appear to be slowing, you should have never entered it, even if he was SUPPOSED to stop. There's a case where you can be DEAD right. Perhaps he should have stopped at a red light, so you proceeded to enter the intersection. Even though you could have been legally right, lawfully right, morally right, and any other kind of right you can think if, when the physics is considered, you could still be dead. The laws of physics are not superceded by the laws of any state or country.
So, before you enter that intersection, make sure that the other drivers approaching see you, and are slowing down. The Smith System allows you to use things like your horn or your headlights to ensure that the other driver sees you. Direct eye contact is desired, but other signs will do. Seeing that he is slowing is a good indication that he sees you. Seeing that he is maintaining a high rate of speed towards the intersection is a good indication that he does NOT see you. Do you want to be right, or dead?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine whether the crossing traffic must stop in your intersection. Signal lights are easy to see. Stop signs are easily identifiable by their shape. Yield signs are also easily identifiable by their unique shape. There's really no excuse for not knowing that the other traffic will not be expected to stop. Perhaps when the police officer told you to "slow down," he meant that you should take the time to assess the intersection before you blindly poke your nose into it.
If you're interested in a career in aviation, you really should be more careful in driving automobiles. Your record will be considered by potential employers.
There are three other points of the Smith System of defensive driving. If Google doesn't help, and you're interested in learning, I might find time to type more later.
Be grateful that you're alive, and nobody got hurt, pay your fines, and resolve to do better in the future. Don't make matters worse by trying to shirk responsibility.
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Please don't drive on the same roads with my wife and children if you don't have the decency to pay attention to what you're doing. You're driving a lethal weapon.Theotokos said:
You should never enter an intersection with a light until you know you can pass completely through the intersection before the light turns red. That means you should be watching the light long before you arrive at the intersection. If it has been green for a long time before you reach the intersection, you should be prepared for it to change, and you should be prepared to stop.Theotokos said:
Judging lights is an essential skill required for the first point of the Smith System of Defensive Driving - "Aim High in Steering." To "aim high," one must be constantly looking ahead of the vehicle, anticipating where it will be 2, 5, 10, 15, 20 seconds down the road. It involves looking straight ahead if the road is straight, it involves looking around corners if the road bends, it involves looking at the taillights of vehicles ahead of you if they block your view of where you anticipate you will be, and it involves looking at intersections through which you will pass. Seeing what's ahead, and judging the obstacles that you will negotiate, you must adjust your speed and direction to ensure you will pass through safely. It requires your ACTIVE attention at all times. It is not something you can do while you're daydreaming.
If you're NOT actively seeking a safe path to travel, you may as well be waving a loaded pistol amongst a crowd of strangers, randomly squeezing the trigger to see if anyone gets killed. Your car is just as deadly, and physics doesn't discriminate.
Before you sit behind the steering wheel and turn on the ignition, make a conscious decision to drive responsibly - - that is, take responsibility for your actions.
There you go. Endanger peoples' lives by not paying attention, violate a law that's in place to protect lives, and then lie to an officer of the court about it. Did your parents raise any smart kids?Theotokos said:
I don't know why it is that people think there's a good reason to lie - - about anything. If you want to really annoy a police officer, start out by lying to him. He'll appreciate the insult to his intelligence so much that he'll do his best to accomodate you with a citation.
Did it ever occur to you that you might have been released with a verbal warning if you had just admitted your mistake? The fact that you made the mistake was not up for debate. When you lied about it, you cemented in his mind the need for you to be cited, because you need to learn a lesson. I'm not sure it would have been the best course of action in this case, knowing your actions and intents, but he might have preferred to hear your honest apology so he could get back to the jelly donut in his car. But there's no way that he can let it slide if you add insult to injury by making up some lame excuse.
He's darn straight - - you could have killed my daughter. Does that thought sober you? Apparently not.Theotokos said:
Then you were going too fast in the first place. If you can't control your vehicle, please turn it off and step out.Theotokos said:
Did you really expect him to use the reason you gave him? You started out by lying, why should he trust a word you say?
No, that's not what court is for. You drive irresponsibly, you break the law, you lie to a Police Officer, you show no remorse for what you've done, and now you want to tie up our legal system for some sort of satisfaction? Give us a break, will ya? Pay the fine, and be thankful nobody got hurt. Learn how to drive.Theotokos said:
Yepp. Blame it on the cops. It couldn't possibly have been your own miserable failure to observe the signs in the intersection or the car headed towards you.Theotokos said:
The fifth and final point of the Smith System of Defensive Driving is "Make Sure They See You." Whether you're right or wrong, physics will always be in effect. No two objects can occupy the same space at the same time. If the othr car was coming towards the intersection and didn't appear to be slowing, you should have never entered it, even if he was SUPPOSED to stop. There's a case where you can be DEAD right. Perhaps he should have stopped at a red light, so you proceeded to enter the intersection. Even though you could have been legally right, lawfully right, morally right, and any other kind of right you can think if, when the physics is considered, you could still be dead. The laws of physics are not superceded by the laws of any state or country.
So, before you enter that intersection, make sure that the other drivers approaching see you, and are slowing down. The Smith System allows you to use things like your horn or your headlights to ensure that the other driver sees you. Direct eye contact is desired, but other signs will do. Seeing that he is slowing is a good indication that he sees you. Seeing that he is maintaining a high rate of speed towards the intersection is a good indication that he does NOT see you. Do you want to be right, or dead?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine whether the crossing traffic must stop in your intersection. Signal lights are easy to see. Stop signs are easily identifiable by their shape. Yield signs are also easily identifiable by their unique shape. There's really no excuse for not knowing that the other traffic will not be expected to stop. Perhaps when the police officer told you to "slow down," he meant that you should take the time to assess the intersection before you blindly poke your nose into it.
If you're interested in a career in aviation, you really should be more careful in driving automobiles. Your record will be considered by potential employers.
There are three other points of the Smith System of defensive driving. If Google doesn't help, and you're interested in learning, I might find time to type more later.
Be grateful that you're alive, and nobody got hurt, pay your fines, and resolve to do better in the future. Don't make matters worse by trying to shirk responsibility.
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Keeping up with the Joneses, or Dumber, Part Deaux
Another example of breaking the law, and then lying about it. You admit you were speeding - - what is the problem with paying the fine?
What is it with folks that think they shouldn't have to take responsibility for their own actions?!?!?
Please! If you're not mature enough to face the consequences of your own actions, PLEASE stay off our streets!
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eta71 said:
Another example of breaking the law, and then lying about it. You admit you were speeding - - what is the problem with paying the fine?
What is it with folks that think they shouldn't have to take responsibility for their own actions?!?!?
Please! If you're not mature enough to face the consequences of your own actions, PLEASE stay off our streets!
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