Deployment Question
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Low_Level_Hell
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To be honest I never would have joined the military if I couldn't get a flying slot. I thought that was selfish a little as well, but you are giving them the best years of your life, and they will use you as they see fit. You should try to do something you want.
With that said don't be they guy there who just wants to fly. Flying is the easy part. Its what you do outside the cockpit that gets you recognized and promoted. No one likes the guys who are just there to fly. They end up being mediocre pilots at best and all around dead wieght.
As far as the guy you know flying fighters 20-30 a month, that's relatively high, I do that now and think its too much. When I'm deployed I fly 70-90 hours a month and thats's way too much.
///AMG
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Maybe the AF is different (ie more monies for non-deployed assets perhaps), but on the Navy side, 20-30/mo sounds pretty high for pointy noses from what I have heard. At least those guys who aren't on war cruises or some sort of deployment.
Low_Level_Hell
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Wouldn't know about the AF. What I'm getting right now is pretty normal for an Army Warrant PC.
When I went to the Joint Fire Power Course in Nellis AFB a few years ago, most of the AF fighter guys couldn't believe how many hours I had with only 6 years of flying. With the time we spend in the Army deployed its not uncommon for -64 guys having 2000 hours before their innitial commitment is up. My old roommate, a Kiowa guy, currently has close to 3000 hours with 8 years in.
ppragman
FLIPY FLAPS!
Yeah, I just broke 42hrs for the month today, we're on full tilt boogey now! I think this might be a 130hr month!
ian
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Sick of the C-5 already??
no way, i love it....just pondering on my 8 days of not flying :rotfl:
///AMG
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Unfortunately (and I say this with envy), apples and oranges my friend
Took me 2 years to get ~250 mil hours, and that was in the training command where you are flying all the time. I log mine 0.8-1.0 at a time though, so it doesn't add up so quick
bunk22
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Abosolutely but don't be a dork about it. Yes, I was a wannabe at one time and no doubt, put in my place though there wasn't a worldweb at that time, so it was done more face to face. Actually, I've got a good story but perhaps another time and thread. Yeah, I was quite the wannabe dork :insane:
bunk22
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Unfortunately (and I say this with envy), apples and oranges my friend
Took me 2 years to get ~250 mil hours, and that was in the training command where you are flying all the time. I log mine 0.8-1.0 at a time though, so it doesn't add up so quick
For the time I've spent flying, I have such low overall flight time. Folks think that flying fixed winged, turbo prop jobs like the C-2 for 8 years would add up to flight time. Nope, as generally, an average month was 10-15 hours. Unless on deployment and even then, not huge. I flew 225 hours my first deployment (I was the low guy of the det of 6 as I was the LSO while the high guy had 275 hours) of 6 months. On my second deployment, I think I logged 330 hours or so, including 121 one month during OEF.
As an FRS IP, I flew 250 hours in 2.5 years...ridiculous. Granted due to the mishap, I had about 100 hours less than the norm as 350-400 hours was about the norm at the time for a COD IP in 3 years as I had to sit on the bench for a while until I was cleared to fly again. Compared to my compatriots in the VT's who logged anywhere from 900-1600 hours in 3 years of flying. So I'm quite behind in terms of flight time compared to some of my peers. Now going to Kingsville, I have to fly quite a bit being the flight times are what, 0.8-1.0 on average? Hello cross countries!!
ian
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Unfortunately (and I say this with envy), apples and oranges my friend
Took me 2 years to get ~250 mil hours, and that was in the training command where you are flying all the time. I log mine 0.8-1.0 at a time though, so it doesn't add up so quick
apparently soon I will be logging mine 8-12 at a time.....as a matter of fact i'm on an 8hr LOCAL on tuesday
///AMG
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From what I could tell while I was there (though this was Meridian mind you), it seemed like IP's generally could fly about as much as their sanity would allow. Most of the guys with phase II quals were flying 3x a day, most days of the week, and occasional weekends. Phase I only folks were flying maybe a little less, but not by much. In terms of CCX, I doubt you will have any trouble at all finding studs to go fly with. They are good deals all around and for such a small bag of gas, in 3 legs, the -45 can actually make pretty good tracks. Being so far east, Meridian was a little confined to midwest and eastern destinations (at least without bribing OPs for a log leg), but I'm sure krock will allow you to go just about anywhere that you like given it's more central location. Overall, I think you will have an awesome time down there. Krock folks always struck me as being the guys who were having a better time than everyone else
edit: assuming you start out instructing BI/RI/FAM/FORM hops, most of those flights are more like 1.5, so a little bit better for time building. But then again, I'd take a 0.9 ACM solo any day over a 1.6 airnav, so maybe my priorities are wrong
Dear lord......I don't think I would be able to feel my legs after that long. What exactly do you do for 8 hrs on a local flight?
Remember, he can get up and walk around; plus I bet they're training multiple crewmembers.
ian
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Dear lord......I don't think I would be able to feel my legs after that long. What exactly do you do for 8 hrs on a local flight?
yep, its 4 dudes in PIQ on the flight. I imagine i'll just hang out doing whatever for 4 of the 8 since we have tons of room then 2 in the seat, 2 in the jump seat.
Blackhawk
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Dear lord......I don't think I would be able to feel my legs after that long. What exactly do you do for 8 hrs on a local flight?
My longest Iraq mission was 9.5 hours wearing chicken plate, 120+ degress, no A/C (we shoved frozen water bottles under our body armor, then dumped them on ourselves after they melted). I ended up flying 13 days straight that period as we were short IPs. I was exhausted. Fly, eat while quickly planning tomorrows mission, sleep 6 hours, repeat.
ppragman
FLIPY FLAPS!
Unfortunately (and I say this with envy), apples and oranges my friend
Took me 2 years to get ~250 mil hours, and that was in the training command where you are flying all the time. I log mine 0.8-1.0 at a time though, so it doesn't add up so quick
Well, yeah, when you're going 300KTAS when you're slow its tough to build time, I'm happy if I break 160kts in cruise groundspeed! Lol.
Think about it this way, you've probably got more airmiles than I do!
(I am jealous though, it'd be a blast to rocket out in the fast mover)
///AMG
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It's all flying man, I'd love to be mountain flying in AK, but nobody offered me a job doing that
