Delta: Unlimited Jumpseats

A friend of mine was told by a gate agent that he couldn't jump... and he FLEW for the airline!!

It got worked out, but a few more minutes and he would have been stuck.
 
kellwolf said:
Pretty sure NWA has unlimited JS. Space in the back, you're good.
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Nope. Not true. Not a big deal, but I guess it could be if the rules are followed and you need to get to work. NW officially allows as many JSers as jumpseats + 2 cabin seats. Though I've never had a problem and I jump on them all the time.

This Delta news is indeed fantastic. Thanks to whomever at DL worked this out!
 
TallFlyer said:
So he couldn't walk when you were done with him, eh?
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well, being the • that I am, I gave up my seat so he could get home in exchange for his contact info and an internal recommendation when I apply to Airtran. Haha. He offered and my friends parents were on the next flight anyway so it all worked out. :D
 
FLflyer said:
To answer your question, Delta's jumpseat policy used to be that only 1 jumpseater was allowed in the cabin, even if there were 20 open seats. Now, they will take as many jumpseaters as there are open seats. (Which is more in line with other carriers, including XJT.):)
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Got it! Thanks!
 
kellwolf said:
Huh. I've never heard of a guy getting turned away if there were empty seats in the back.
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I have heard about it a few times... happened to some of my class mates. That is why its usually a good idea to list ahead of time as a non-rev just in case. If there is another NWA mainline jumpseater, and they are nice, that jumpseater can officially occupy the Flight Attendant jumpseat while you officially occupy the cockpit jumpseat.
 
BrettInLJ said:
I have heard about it a few times... happened to some of my class mates. That is why its usually a good idea to list ahead of time as a non-rev just in case. If there is another NWA mainline jumpseater, and they are nice, that jumpseater can officially occupy the Flight Attendant jumpseat while you officially occupy the cockpit jumpseat.
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While a coach seat goes empty? That's pretty retarded, IMO.
 
kellwolf said:
While a coach seat goes empty? That's pretty retarded, IMO.
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It costs money to move a jumpseater - I know it seems to come for free, after all the planes going there anyway, but the more weight it has to carry the more fuel it consumes - and jumpseaters typically come with a fine selection of baggage as well. I don't know if that's the REASON any specific airline limits jumpseaters, but I bet it would seem like a good reason to some bean counter somewhere.

Does anybody know WHY some airlines restrict the jumpseat count, other than it's in the GOM or the CBA? Maybe there is no good reason, it's just a negotiating point.
 
CFIse said:
It costs money to move a jumpseater - I know it seems to come for free, after all the planes going there anyway, but the more weight it has to carry the more fuel it consumes - and jumpseaters typically come with a fine selection of baggage as well. I don't know if that's the REASON any specific airline limits jumpseaters, but I bet it would seem like a good reason to some bean counter somewhere.

Does anybody know WHY some airlines restrict the jumpseat count, other than it's in the GOM or the CBA? Maybe there is no good reason, it's just a negotiating point.
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Yeah, and to bean counters all passengers and bags weigh the same......

I don't buy that one, and here's why. The airline doesn't wait until 20 minutes prior to order fuel for the aircraft based on the number of passengers. If you have 20 seats left at the last minute and 20 people show up to buy those seats, the airline would look pretty bad if they said "Sorry, we can't sell you the tickets. We didn't order enough fuel." If a paying passenger showed up, they'd damn sure take them and wouldn't have to do anything differently to the fuel load. Same should be done with an open seat in the back and a JSer.
 
kellwolf said:
I don't buy that one, and here's why. The airline doesn't wait until 20 minutes prior to order fuel for the aircraft based on the number of passengers. If you have 20 seats left at the last minute and 20 people show up to buy those seats, the airline would look pretty bad if they said "Sorry, we can't sell you the tickets. We didn't order enough fuel." If a paying passenger showed up, they'd damn sure take them and wouldn't have to do anything differently to the fuel load. Same should be done with an open seat in the back and a JSer.
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Right - but you still burn more fuel carrying the extra load. So even though you may have ordered "more" fuel than strictly necessary, you get to the other end with more fuel in the tanks when you're light then when you're heavy. I don't know if that's the reason for limiting jumpseaters, I doubt it, just offering it up.

Who knows - they keep telling me the 2 minutes we spend with the APU not running on the ground spread across every flight every day saves us millions and millions of dollars a year - I'm sure somebody can do the math for every flight being 200 pounds lighter. In fact that was given as one of the reasons JetBlue is pulling seats from their planes, although the other reason, one less flight attendant would seem to be more of a money saver.
 
Officially, the reason jetBlue is pulling the seats is to save $$$ with one less FA. That's coming from my CA from Dec whos finacee is a jetBlue FA. As for the APU thing, that sounds like an extreme penny pincher issue, especially in places like the South and the desert. That thing doesn't burn up THAT much fuel, and I'd rather the passengers be comfortable than save $.02. Then again, my company is the one that put out a memo saying that if the APU is deferred, hand out cold towels.
 
kellwolf said:
Officially, the reason jetBlue is pulling the seats is to save $$$ with one less FA. That's coming from my CA from Dec whos finacee is a jetBlue FA. As for the APU thing, that sounds like an extreme penny pincher issue, especially in places like the South and the desert. That thing doesn't burn up THAT much fuel, and I'd rather the passengers be comfortable than save $.02. Then again, my company is the one that put out a memo saying that if the APU is deferred, hand out cold towels.
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Cold towels? ROFL
 
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