Delta to raise baggage fees

An outsider's perspective:

I am not working in the aviation industry (anymore). As much as I would like to support you guys, I just can't take the crap the airlines and TSA throw at us anymore. Between bag fees, other ridiculous fees, poor service, delays, long lines, asinine TSA rules, and terrorism, air travel has become a miserable, stressful ordeal that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I'm sorry, but I will be traveling by car, bus, or train to anywhere that doesn't involve crossing an ocean.

It would be better to simply raise ticket prices than to tack on these ludicrous fees.
 
flyingwriter said:
An outsider's perspective:

I am not working in the aviation industry (anymore). As much as I would like to support you guys, I just can't take the crap the airlines and TSA throw at us anymore. Between bag fees, other ridiculous fees, poor service, delays, long lines, asinine TSA rules, and terrorism, air travel has become a miserable, stressful ordeal that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I'm sorry, but I will be traveling by car, bus, or train to anywhere that doesn't involve crossing an ocean.

It would be better to simply raise ticket prices than to tack on these ridiculous fees.
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Unfortunately "traveling by car to any place that doesn't involve crossing an ocean" is impractical to 99% of the traveling public...otherwise, I'd do the same thing. Or, I would gladly pay 135/hr to rent a plane and fly myself (assuming I had the money).
 
ozziecat35 said:
Not sure if this is what you're asking, but at US a normal bag is automatically counted as 30lbs. Anything 50lbs to 99lbs is considered 60 lbs, and anything over 100lbs needs to be manually weighed and accounted for in the upload. When I'm putting my numbers in before I push the flight out, DECS automatically accounts for any H tag ons. -In this case, BL is local bags, then if I tag an H onto it, it counts everything in that row as double.
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How legit does that turn out to be, if half of the flight has 49lbs bags doesn't that jack with the performance numbers? I would think it would.
 
As someone who owns an airplane, even given the added cost, I will still gladly fly myself than deal with the airlines.
 
ppragman said:
How legit does that turn out to be, if half of the flight has 49lbs bags doesn't that jack with the performance numbers? I would think it would.
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In the "standard weight" programs I've seen, the W&B envelopes are reduced to account for the fudge factor.

-mini
 
ppragman said:
Somewhat non sequitur

What do 121 ops call carryon baggage in terms of weight? Last time I flew, my carryon never got weighed...
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That's a great question.

There is an advisory circular out there that outlines the specifics of the program. Pretty in-depth. Also outlines how they come up with the standard sheeple weight.

Good read for the 18 hours of darkness that comes with Alaskan winters. Unless you're doin' your old lady doggy so you both can see the hockey game.
 
Polar742 said:
Good read for the 18 hours of darkness that comes with Alaskan winters. Unless you're doin' your old lady doggy so you both can see the hockey game.
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LMAO ROTF:rotfl:

OldTownPilot said:
Continental just announced that they are matching the Delta increase.
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No Shocker there. Then UAL and USAIR will follow suit.

The best thing the airlines could do is go back to charing a ticket prices that includes the back and descent service on the flight and stop nickle and diming the customers.

If you brought the service level back and food quality back people would gladly pay the money. I am sure there would be complaining in the begining but once the word of mouth got out the airline probably would be packed.

Normally by the time you get done with the bag fees, and your beverages and snacks in flight you could have tacked on another 50-100 to your overall price.
 
Bandit_Driver said:
The best thing the airlines could do is go back to charing a ticket prices that includes the back and descent service on the flight and stop nickle and diming the customers.
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Customers are getting what they wanted. Until they demand improved service, they'll get the status quo.

Reality is, they're just happy with the status quo as it's no secret - the average middle American who needs to go see Grandma with the three little people by their side, will purchase the cheapest ticket.
 
Polar742 said:
That's a great question.

There is an advisory circular out there that outlines the specifics of the program. Pretty in-depth. Also outlines how they come up with the standard sheeple weight.

Good read for the 18 hours of darkness that comes with Alaskan winters. Unless you're doin' your old lady doggy so you both can see the hockey game.
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Hater's gonna hate! and by the way HOCKEY!? HOCKEY?! What the hell do you think we are, Canadians? :D
 
surreal1221 said:
Customers are getting what they wanted. Until they demand improved service, they'll get the status quo.

Reality is, they're just happy with the status quo as it's no secret - the average middle American who needs to go see Grandma with the three little people by their side, will purchase the cheapest ticket.
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Yup, and then complain about size of the jet and why he had to pay for every can of pop and pack of peanuts.....It won't be long before pay toilets. I think Ryan was considering that option....
 
minitour said:
Where's the commercial mocking SWA taxi speeds? They're dangerous.

-mini
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surreal1221 said:
Customers are getting what they wanted. Until they demand improved service, they'll get the status quo.

Reality is, they're just happy with the status quo as it's no secret - the average middle American who needs to go see Grandma with the three little people by their side, will purchase the cheapest ticket.
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They'll bitch and whine about it, but the bottom line is that they'll pay up and get on board. They don't have any choice because if they want to go to see Aunt Bessie for Thanksgiving and they can't drive it, what are they going to do?

People don't fly because they want to. They fly because they have to.

And they say they want this, that, and the other but they won't pay for it. Well, you get what you pay for. They want Nordstrom service for Walmart prices.

Well, I'd like to be banging Angelina Joelie and Hedi Klum, but that ain't gonna happen either.
 
I think the baggage fee kept seperate allows the airlines to have to vital cash on hand. Service failures for ticket fares paid on credit and/or Cheap Travel sites might be able to be challenged after the fact and payment withheld, so raising ticket prices to accomodate for baggage fees won't work.
 
What's interesting is when the airlines raise their fares, it hits the evening news broadcast and people hem and haw like Taylor Swift made a sex tape with Biz Markie.

However, when McDonalds raises their prices, it doesn't even pique the media's interest.
 
Doug Taylor said:
What's interesting is when the airlines raise their fares, it hits the evening news broadcast and people hem and haw like Taylor Swift made a sex tape with Biz Markie.

However, when McDonalds raises their prices, it doesn't even pique the media's interest.
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If McDonalds started charging for napkins and ketchup, the media would be all over it.
 
As a far more frequent passenger than pilot, I would have to say that my purchasing decisions are made on who is charging for bags. Personally, I would not mind a bit about the baggage charges...so long as they start after the first bag. Since most americans take 1 week off, one checked bag should provide enough space for all their crap for a week.

Where I get really annoyed is that ski bags and other odd-sized objects are now being charged....not cool.
 
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