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Cav said:
I made a similar move a few bids ago and have absolutely no regret whatsoever. Cool schedules beat cool airplanes 100% of the time in my book.
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The best of all worlds is to have a cool schedule and a cool airplane, but I'll settle for the former.

Nobody has let me fly either yet, but in my considerable experience riding around up front on both of them, I would rather be comfortable on the Airbus than uncomfortable on the 737. I've somehow managed to avoid riding up front on the -80/-90/-95717 thus far.
 
Seggy said:
I am VOLUNTARILY bidding the Le'FiFi in the bid we have open now.

Going to be 30%ish in base on the Le'FiFi vs. 90%ish on the 737.
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Both airplanes pay the same. So in this base, why wouldn't everyone on the 73 want the higher relative bidding power on the 320? Do you get to see a mock bid award before the final is published, just to see where indeed one would land?
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Both airplanes pay the same. So in this base, why wouldn't everyone on the 73 want the higher relative bidding power on the 320? Do you get to see a mock bid award before the final is published, just to see where indeed one would land?
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No they don't. As explained to me by an IAH 737 guy (37 73 whatever UAL pilots call it) you fly the A319 more than the A320. The 319 pays the same as the 737-700. But the 737 guys fly the -900 and -800 MUCH more than the -700. (-800 and -900 pay the same as the 320). So they are actually making more money on the 737 than the Airbus. @Seggy can come on in and clarify anything. That was just one reason I heard, from one pilot.
 
B767 said:
No they don't. As explained to me by an IAH 737 guy (37 73 whatever UAL pilots call it) you fly the A319 more than the A320. The 319 pays the same as the 737-700. But the 737 guys fly the -900 and -800 MUCH more than the -700. (-800 and -900 pay the same as the 320). So they are actually making more money on the 737 than the Airbus. @Seggy can come on in and clarify anything. That was just one reason I heard, from one pilot.
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$5/hr spread on the F/O side, $10/hr spread on the CA side...

Yeah I don't believe that for a second.

Buddy is a 73 guy he says the trips are a lot better on it than the Airbus. He's weird, he's commuting from IAH to EWR to fly the 73 vs. going to the Airbus and being home based. Must be something in their culture there that is anti-Airbus or something. Same thing at AA, a 6 month new hire on the AA side bids 50% up the list on the Airbus, guy hasn't even been off OE for three months!
 
wheelsup said:
$5/hr spread on the F/O side, $10/hr spread on the CA side...

Yeah I don't believe that for a second.

Buddy is a 73 guy he says the trips are a lot better on it than the Airbus. He's weird, he's commuting from IAH to EWR to fly the 73 vs. going to the Airbus and being home based. Must be something in their culture there that is anti-Airbus or something. Same thing at AA, a 6 month new hire on the AA side bids 50% up the list on the Airbus, guy hasn't even been off OE for three months!
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Cultural changes. A lot of former SouthernJets "south" pilots wouldn't touch an Airbus if their life depended on it — which is fine. And a lot of former SouthernJets "north" pilots wouldn't touch a 737.

I'd be the BMOC on the 320 in NYC (former "South" base), but I sit better, percentage-wise on the 737-7/8/9 in DTW (former "North" base)
 
Derg said:
Cultural changes. A lot of former SouthernJets "south" pilots wouldn't touch an Airbus if their life depended on it — which is fine. And a lot of former SouthernJets "north" pilots wouldn't touch a 737.

I'd be the BMOC on the 320 in NYC (former "South" base), but I sit better, percentage-wise on the 737-7/8/9 in DTW (former "North" base)
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At least here, cultural changes are a very small part of it. Remember, both of the legacy airlines that merged here had a large 737 fleet at one time and pretty much every pilot on both properties have flown both air frames.

It is much more seniority related.

What you have is a mass exodus on the Airbus fleet due to their seniority being able to hold a higher paying seat out of the SLI. In a lot of the bases, as the Airbus FOs are upgrading to 737/320 Captains and the Airbus Captains are transitioning to wide body Captain and/or 757/767 Captain there is a large void on the Airbus with that movement. Those on the other legacy side aren't loosing that much in their seat so they are staying put or going to wide body FO. That, along with some realignments in flying is allowing me to take close to a 60% jump in seniority from going from the 737 to 320.

I will make more as an Airbus FO with a senior line rather than reserve on the FO side with the 737.
 
Derg said:
Cultural changes. A lot of former SouthernJets "south" pilots wouldn't touch an Airbus if their life depended on it — which is fine. And a lot of former SouthernJets "north" pilots wouldn't touch a 737.

I'd be the BMOC on the 320 in NYC (former "South" base), but I sit better, percentage-wise on the 737-7/8/9 in DTW (former "North" base)
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Ditto. I know several South guys that refuse to fly the Airbus for personal reasons. (Black magic, death trap, computer always in control etc etc) More opportunities for us "open-minded" pilots.
 
Derg said:
Cultural changes. A lot of former SouthernJets "south" pilots wouldn't touch an Airbus if their life depended on it — which is fine. And a lot of former SouthernJets "north" pilots wouldn't touch a 737.

I'd be the BMOC on the 320 in NYC (former "South" base), but I sit better, percentage-wise on the 737-7/8/9 in DTW (former "North" base)
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747 still fenced off for you guys?
 
Trip7 said:
Ditto. I know several South guys that refuse to fly the Airbus for personal reasons. (Black magic, death trap, computer always in control etc etc) More opportunities for us "open-minded" pilots.
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Departure from controlled flight due to a flight control system malfunction is an interesting and unacceptable way to go out in an airliner. ;)

Paragraph two of that is called "training, or how to recognize and react," of course.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Departure from controlled flight due to a flight control system malfunction is an interesting and unacceptable way to go out in an airliner. ;)

Paragraph two of that is called "training, or how to recognize and react," of course.
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Departure from controlled flight due to a pilot induced stall is an unacceptable way to go out also.

Both have produced crashes.
 
BobDDuck said:
Our jumpseats aren't the most comfortable, but the flights are short and the views (especially on a clear day when the whales are tooling around) are amazing.
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One if the best flights I've ever had was HNL-KOA in December back while I was in college. All kinds of whales.
 
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