Delta Disqualifiers

Derg said:
Yes.

Maybe it's because I'm happily middle aged, but hot damn, indifference is sweetly liberating.

12,613 pilots. 12,613 very different stories of how they got there. A person looking to be hired needs to focus on making it the 12,614th
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I remember very clearly when a few FOs got hired by you guys in 2009, some captains complained that they were hired "out of seniority."

I'm sorry. I didn't know hiring worked on seniority...
 
Pilotdude3407 said:
I have a wife and kids at home. They don't really like it that I spend what little time I have talking with pilots about their issues and doing my work for the union. I certainly am not doing it for my health. They don't particularly like the other time I spend doing other volunteer work. They don't particularly like that I am still commuting to a regional after 8 yrs. Certainly not my choice. And now they really don't like it when I say that I have to go spend thousands of dollars obtaining a masters degree so that I might be just a smidge more competitive than the next guy.
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Sounds to me like you married the wrong broad, or you're in this line of work for all the wrong reasons.

But, that's none of my business. . .
 
Pilotdude3407 said:
See, I think story's like this is what is driving people nuts. I've heard of these guys and I have to tell you it sounds so unbelievable I have a hard time wrapping my head around it. While I'm not knocking your friend, I hardly think this is fair (yes life isn't fair). You've got guys, including me, who are chasing their tail trying to check any box imaginable to get separated from the pack and crickets...

I've just started the process of obtaining a masters so I can pull my college GPA out of the tank and hopefully get noticed. I am a union committee chairman, have outside volunteer work, PIC time, finished college in 4 yrs, have about 8 internals, plus two former high managers that have wrote letters, and to top it all off, I am a double legacy of this airline. Crickets...yet someone who couldn't be more plain (unless you left out a major chunk like Blue Angel time) gets a call. Ohh, and in comparison, my app is nowhere near as stellar as a lot of others I know that are hearing crickets as well. I get the same echoed "in time, everyone will get a call", however in terms of seniority and money that is lost every single time a class goes through, that's a huge deal. Rant and pity party over.
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The guy was a bit of a crotch pheasant for awhile... :) People change though as was given the opportunity to show it. Lucky for him!

I used to feel the same way. I used to have an opinion of FOs with flight instructing as their only PIC time, but that's for a different discussion.

I honestly just stopped giving a damn about it. I'm just going to keep plugging away at my own world. Someone will say yes soon. This was all of about a week ago. I'll see if it holds after consuming some rum. :)

I'm not gunning for anyone particular though. They all look exactly the same to me. 35 years left for 121 for me. Allegiant could become the hot shiz in that time frame. haha The nerd in me wants one of the big three or UPS/FedEx. Fly ALL the planes! :)
 
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UAL747400 said:
I'm not gunning for anyone particular though. They all look exactly the same to me. 35 years left for 121 for me. Allegiant could become the hot shiz in that time frame. haha The nerd in me wants one of the big three or UPS/FedEx. Fly ALL the planes! :)
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Man. I would be a happy happy person if I could fly the E190 or A320 the rest of my career, and retire from JetBlue. Buuuut, we will probably get bought before I turn 65.

I used to want to fly lots of airplanes all over the world. Now I try to limit the number of initial courses I have to endure, and I try to stay South of Georgia when I go flying. :) Oh no...I'm becoming @ZapBrannigan!
 
Derg said:
Pilotdude3407 said:
I have checked all the boxes. I have a wife and kids at home. They don't really like it that I spend what little time I have talking with pilots about their issues and doing my work for the union. I certainly am not doing it for my health. They don't particularly like the other time I spend doing other volunteer work. They don't particularly like that I am still commuting to a regional after 8 yrs. Certainly not my choice. And now they really don't like it when I say that I have to go spend thousands of dollars obtaining a masters degree so that I might be just a smidge more competitive than the next guy.
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Worrying about where someone else is, or bemoaning how they got there is absolutely wasted time you'll never get back when you can be sharpening up your resume, making more networking contacts and busting rocks.
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I feel the need to inject my opinion that if you're not having fun, and if you're living only for tomorrow, you're quite simply doing it wrong.

Life is fun, and life is short. You need to enjoy every moment of it for what it is, because you never know where you're going to be tomorrow. It could be Delta, or it could be dead. Don't waste it being bitter and unhappy, working away at "checking boxes" and hoping your number will be called.

"Love the one you're with"

-Fox
 
Acrofox said:
I feel the need to inject my opinion that if you're not having fun, and if you're living only for tomorrow, you're quite simply doing it wrong.

Life is fun, and life is short. You need to enjoy every moment of it for what it is, because you never know where you're going to be tomorrow. It could be Delta, or it could be dead. Don't waste it being bitter and unhappy, working away at "checking boxes" and hoping your number will be called.

"Love the one you're with"

-Fox
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And I'll add, give the one your with your best efforts. Even if the ship is sinking.
 
Acrofox said:
I feel the need to inject my opinion that if you're not having fun, and if you're living only for tomorrow, you're quite simply doing it wrong.

Life is fun, and life is short. You need to enjoy every moment of it for what it is, because you never know where you're going to be tomorrow. It could be Delta, or it could be dead. Don't waste it being bitter and unhappy, working away at "checking boxes" and hoping your number will be called.

"Love the one you're with"

-Fox
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If there is anything I learned in college it was this. Though I didn't learn it until after college. "I worked my ass off....for this?"
 
Screaming_Emu said:
If there is anything I learned in college it was this. Though I didn't learn it until after college. "I worked my ass off....for this?"
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Maybe when you work for an organization that values your loyalty you'll feel different.
 
The sooner folks come to the realization that this biz is more about luck than anything else, the sooner they can get to their place of zen.

Sure, you can tweak the wheel, increase your odds a little bit. Or you can go the other way, and get thrown out of the casino (not hard).

But in the end, if it just so happens that you're on top of the pile the day they need someone, you get picked. Plain and simple. I've seen it from practically day one of my time in this industry in ways that would defy any normal logic.

If you can't deal with this.... this isn't the racket for you.

Richman
 
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