DELTA CUTS JOBS
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WillNotFly4Food
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I knew some good people in DFW. Hope they make it out blue side up.
Sounds like a 1/3, 2/3 split between DAL and DCI in SLC. Most of that 2/3's being ASA handled by SKY /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Between local ATC having a phobia of visible moisture and lack of room here it should be interesting. Maybe they'll setup a snowcone shak and a port-o-potty on the deice pad and bus people from the main terminal.
I heard the average F/A seniority in DFW was something like 23 years.
If DAL starts losing their most senior pilots (777, international) to early retirement how, long are you talking for replacements? 3 months start to finish of IOE? Seems like that alone could be a deal breaker.
Hope this all works out.
<---- trying to keep fingers crossed and grab ankles at same time. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
Sounds like a 1/3, 2/3 split between DAL and DCI in SLC. Most of that 2/3's being ASA handled by SKY /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Between local ATC having a phobia of visible moisture and lack of room here it should be interesting. Maybe they'll setup a snowcone shak and a port-o-potty on the deice pad and bus people from the main terminal.
I heard the average F/A seniority in DFW was something like 23 years.
If DAL starts losing their most senior pilots (777, international) to early retirement how, long are you talking for replacements? 3 months start to finish of IOE? Seems like that alone could be a deal breaker.
Hope this all works out.
<---- trying to keep fingers crossed and grab ankles at same time. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
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well, you lost me on that one...can you try explaining again what Mr Fred said??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif [/quote}
Sorry, I should have been more clear. DCI carriers operate on a fee-for-departure basis. That is, Delta pays a carrier say $1,000/block hour to operate a flight from CVG-->RDU. Here's how it was explained to us by Fred Buttrell (DCI head cheese).
Delta pays the $1,000 for the hour and then looks at the revenue (tickets, mail, cargo, etc) generated from that hour. If that only adds up to $900, then Big 'D' loses $100. So, in order to turn this around, Delta will simply start paying $850 for that hour to the DCI carrier. This is possible because the carriers' pay rates are reset every year (you guessed it, in Jan-Feb timeframe).
This means that Comair, who was say operating that block hour for an internal cost of $950, showed a $50 profit (internally). Well, now that they are only gonna get $850 for that same flying, they need to trim $100 of costs just to break even. There are/have been a lot of efficiency enhancements and cost savings that are helping our bottom line, but again, management is going to come to the labor (admittedly a huge cost) to bail us out.
The not-so-subtle threat is that if we don't get our costs (read wages) down, we will probably LOSE a bunch our flying to our competitors, such as CHQ, Skywest, and even MESA. That will translate into transferred aircraft and furloughs of some/all of the 600ish non-furlough-protected pilots on property. And of course the associated reduction in pay/QOL for those that do get to stick around.
Doom and gloomy? Absolutely. And it is in management's best interest to paint it as such.
well, you lost me on that one...can you try explaining again what Mr Fred said??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif [/quote}
Sorry, I should have been more clear. DCI carriers operate on a fee-for-departure basis. That is, Delta pays a carrier say $1,000/block hour to operate a flight from CVG-->RDU. Here's how it was explained to us by Fred Buttrell (DCI head cheese).
Delta pays the $1,000 for the hour and then looks at the revenue (tickets, mail, cargo, etc) generated from that hour. If that only adds up to $900, then Big 'D' loses $100. So, in order to turn this around, Delta will simply start paying $850 for that hour to the DCI carrier. This is possible because the carriers' pay rates are reset every year (you guessed it, in Jan-Feb timeframe).
This means that Comair, who was say operating that block hour for an internal cost of $950, showed a $50 profit (internally). Well, now that they are only gonna get $850 for that same flying, they need to trim $100 of costs just to break even. There are/have been a lot of efficiency enhancements and cost savings that are helping our bottom line, but again, management is going to come to the labor (admittedly a huge cost) to bail us out.
The not-so-subtle threat is that if we don't get our costs (read wages) down, we will probably LOSE a bunch our flying to our competitors, such as CHQ, Skywest, and even MESA. That will translate into transferred aircraft and furloughs of some/all of the 600ish non-furlough-protected pilots on property. And of course the associated reduction in pay/QOL for those that do get to stick around.
Doom and gloomy? Absolutely. And it is in management's best interest to paint it as such.
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Turned out to be a overhyped hub closure with a few targeted swipes at a few employee groups.
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Exactly. And to think I got myself all worked up thinking FMIII.
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Oh, and new flight attendant uniforms.
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Whoopie-Doo..........New uniforms /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
Actually though, from talking to a few DL F/As, I heard nothing good about the current uniforms. Poor fabric quality (holes wearing through after one or two washes), poor manufacturing quality (seams ripping out on the first wear), unflattering (makes even small people look big, and sweat stains show through on the blue shirts), basically just all-around bad uniforms.
Turned out to be a overhyped hub closure with a few targeted swipes at a few employee groups.
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Exactly. And to think I got myself all worked up thinking FMIII.
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Oh, and new flight attendant uniforms.
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Whoopie-Doo..........New uniforms /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
Actually though, from talking to a few DL F/As, I heard nothing good about the current uniforms. Poor fabric quality (holes wearing through after one or two washes), poor manufacturing quality (seams ripping out on the first wear), unflattering (makes even small people look big, and sweat stains show through on the blue shirts), basically just all-around bad uniforms.