Delta Charging $200 a Month Extra for Health Insurance if you don't have The Shot

Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I remember the days when industry wide we hated pilots who would come to work sick, with “allergies” and spread it others. Now for the anti-vax, who could be infected, be ok, and spread it to someone compromised or too young to take the vaccine, it’s a “yuck you! I have rights.”

How’s we get from one to the other end of this?
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Funny, at first I thought you were going to put down anti-maskers, not anti-vaxers.

By the way, why aren’t you a pro-mask mandate’r, considering your vaccination stance?
 
mikecweb said:
See the conundrum with him is he has to somehow always be on the opposite side of the argument. It's a dance for sure.
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Nice try mikecweb. Not true.


SteveC said:
Funny, at first I thought you were going to put down anti-maskers, not anti-vaxers.

By the way, why aren’t you a pro-mask mandate’r, considering your vaccination stance?
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Because by this point, anyone above 14 who wanted a vaccine could have taken one (barring immuno-compromised who can't). The overwhelming majority of people in hospitals are the un-vaxxed. Most of the deaths now are also the un-vaxxed. Vaccinations for all is the one way to get out of this as clean as possible, minimal deaths, minimal hospital surges. That said, I don't care anymore about those who die that refused the vaccine (the solution to the problem). I also am fed up with the masking requirements, covid restrictions, shutdowns, all of it. Yeah, I got a problem with the anti-vax pilots. I've flown with them. We already lost a 53 yr old CA who left behind a wife and kids, was not vaccinated. How much you want to bet if he could go back in time, he would have gotten the vaccine?

I am against masking at this point, but I am 100% for mandatory vaccination via employers. Force them the shots. If they claim religious or medical exemptions, all they have to do is "accommodate" you. Nothing says you still have to fly planes for them. Enjoy a flight ops office job. United, Frontier, Hawaiian are on the right side of history. I only hope the rest all join soon.
 
fholbert said:
You don't need to make a decision on each story, It's overall coverage.

If this was my first week watching Fox News and I saw the stories (3 anchors) about taking horse/cow dewormer to fight off Corona Virus I'd discount what that network said going forward.

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Ivermectin is approved for human treatment, do you think it was developed for horses? Same thing with hydroxychloroquine, they're both approved by the FDA for treating people for other symptoms but despite the fact that they seem to help Covid patients they are treated as veterinary drugs only taken by crazy people. If you go to the tractor store to buy horse meds and shoot a horse sized dose of ivermectin up your ass then that's just Darwin making his point. Real doctors are being told to not prescribe these drugs to Covid patients in appropiate doses, why?
 
knot4u said:
Ivermectin is approved for human treatment, do you think it was developed for horses? Same thing with hydroxychloroquine, they're both approved by the FDA for treating people for other symptoms but despite the fact that they seem to help Covid patients they are treated as veterinary drugs only taken by crazy people. If you go to the tractor store to buy horse meds and shoot a horse sized dose of ivermectin up your ass then that's just Darwin making his point. Real doctors are being told to not prescribe these drugs to Covid patients in appropiate doses, why?
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Because they don’t frigging work.
 
Roger Roger said:
Because they don’t frigging work.
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I would've posted a reference but you would've instantly said that whatever that reference was is not trustworthy. I'm vaccinated, I begrudgingly wear a mask when necessary, I'm not the problem I just don't want to discount any possible treatments for political reasons.
 
knot4u said:
I would've posted a reference but you would've instantly said that whatever that reference was is not trustworthy. I'm vaccinated, I begrudgingly wear a mask when necessary, I'm not the problem I just don't want to discount any possible treatments for political reasons.
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It’s almost like peer-reviewed scientific data overwhelmingly points to conclusions that almost half the country has chosen to ignore.
 
knot4u said:
I would've posted a reference but you would've instantly said that whatever that reference was is not trustworthy. I'm vaccinated, I begrudgingly wear a mask when necessary, I'm not the problem I just don't want to discount any possible treatments for political reasons.
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NIH is pretty much the gold standard when it comes to medical research and they can't seem to find any evidence that Ivermectin makes a difference. That doesn't mean that it doesn't exist or that it doesn't make a difference, but there's no valid, credible evidence out there right now that suggests that it does. There is another report out there claiming Ivermectin makes a positive difference, but when you look at where they've accumulated their evidence from, it's mostly studies run in a bunch of third world countries using questionable research practices, which the NIH points out in their advisory.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Ivermectin for preventing and treating COVID-19 - PubMed

Based on the current very low- to low-certainty evidence, we are uncertain about the efficacy and safety of ivermectin used to treat or prevent COVID-19. The completed studies are small and few are considered high quality. Several studies are underway that may produce clearer answers in review...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"OMG, NIH is a government agency, this is all a liberal led conspiracy, of course they say Ivermectin doesn't work!"
 
Richman said:
That wouldn’t be necessary if more journalists knew their job, and did the job without being so obvious they’re trying to score a different job in a market with a larger share.
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Respectfully, I'd like you to please remember this when a non-pilot expresses significant opinions about how you operated their flight and how airlines (or Air Lines) work - especially when that person has just enough knowledge - like a PPL - to be 'dangerous.'
 
FlyingAccountant said:
NIH is pretty much the gold standard when it comes to medical research and they can't seem to find any evidence that Ivermectin makes a difference. That doesn't mean that it doesn't exist or that it doesn't make a difference, but there's no valid, credible evidence out there right now that suggests that it does. There is another report out there claiming Ivermectin makes a positive difference, but when you look at where they've accumulated their evidence from, it's mostly studies run in a bunch of third world countries using questionable research practices, which the NIH points out in their advisory.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Ivermectin for preventing and treating COVID-19 - PubMed

Based on the current very low- to low-certainty evidence, we are uncertain about the efficacy and safety of ivermectin used to treat or prevent COVID-19. The completed studies are small and few are considered high quality. Several studies are underway that may produce clearer answers in review...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"OMG, NIH is a government agency, this is all a liberal led conspiracy, of course they say Ivermectin doesn't work!"
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I've heard anecdotal evidence from people that were either sick or had a family member who was sick and their doctor administered Ivermectin and they seemed to have a very quick recovery. I'm not convinced it's a panacea but if it seems to help it shouldn't be shelved because someones feelings might get hurt.
 
knot4u said:
I've heard anecdotal evidence from people that were either sick or had a family member who was sick and their doctor administered Ivermectin and they seemed to have a very quick recovery. I'm not convinced it's a panacea but if it seems to help it shouldn't be shelved because someones feelings might get hurt.
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There is a process in place to go from anecdotal to studied, peer reviewed, and FDA approved. We have 3 vaccines that we KNOW works in combating the virus.

All of the anecdotal stuff, that usually isn't administered by physicians, aren't doing anything but putting more burden on an already stressed medical system due to people poisoning themselves.
 
knot4u said:
I have no idea what you're talking about.
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"Immanuel, a pediatrician and a religious minister, has a history of making bizarre claims about medical topics and other issues. She has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches."

Stella Immanuel - Wikipedia

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Roger Roger said:
Same ol story…just like how everyone wants American manufacturing jobs and small businesses, but when the time comes to buy a new XL Black rubber fist, they’re ordering Chinese-made off Amazon, people whine and complain about wanting better journalism but get all their news from Facebook.
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Nothing makes me laugh more than a "Be American, buy American" sticker on an import car.
 
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