Delta Charging $200 a Month Extra for Health Insurance if you don't have The Shot
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MarkE
Greetings, Professor Falken
Scrolling through FB memes while taking a 30 minute dump is the new research.
guywhoflies
Y'NO WUT IM SAYIN
A distant family member has gotten 3 covid vaccines (not sure which one). She has been tested for antibodies each time and each time the test has shown she has zero antibodies. She's got to be in the very small minority, but just goes to show that even the vaccines may not offer the same "known quantity" of antibodies for everyone.I fly with a lot of them as well.
The issue is you may be protected, or you may not. The amount of antibodies that your body creates from COVID sickness is highly variable, as opposed to the known quantity from a vaccine.
That’s why they could end up like this guy, that had COVID previously and decided not to vaccinate:
Colorado fitness coach regrets not getting COVID-19 vaccine after 2-month hospital stay
Bill Phillips lost 70 pounds during his time in the ICU and is now urging the unvaccinated to get the shot.www.9news.com
zmiller4
Well-Known Member
I don’t know if it’s “anti-intellectualism”…it seems to me to be an access to information issue.
30 years ago, we largely had to rely on journalists for our information, and while there clearly would be biases, most had some sort of ethical standards. Now anyone can find someone with apparent qualifications to back up whatever opinion they have. Why would I listen to the head of Baylor’s infectious diseases program when I can just share a video of a “functional medicine” family practioner from BFE Indiana whose message I like better?
I think this is incredibly dubious.
edit: yes it is…here and here.
GypsyPilot
Mohawk Town
You see folks, this post above is the problem with social media. Someone like this takes an anecdotal datapoint and some how tries to extrapolate it as if that has any relevance.
@guywhoflies, what the scientific/medical community does is look at the statistical data for effectiveness. So perhaps your aunt Edna isn’t getting a benefit from the vaccines for some reason, which is likely a severely compromised immune system. While that sucks, it’s absolutely meaningless for the 95%+ of people that do gain a major benefit from getting vaccinated.
GypsyPilot
Mohawk Town
Yep. It’s total BS.
96% of medical doctors in the US have been vaccinated:
AMA survey shows over 96% of doctors fully vaccinated against COVID-19
New data point toward high COVID-19 vaccine confidence among practicing physicians.
www.ama-assn.org
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
Yeah but what about chiropractors?!?Yep. It’s total BS.
96% of medical doctors in the US have been vaccinated:
AMA survey shows over 96% of doctors fully vaccinated against COVID-19
New data point toward high COVID-19 vaccine confidence among practicing physicians.
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
Wait….isn’t capitalism the one that embraces creative destruction? Isn’t it so-called socialism to prop up a failed business model?
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
I don't know any capitalists who gleefully salivate at the idea of one of the largest employers in the country going bust.
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
Were you not around for the auto maker and bank bailouts? “Too big to fail=too big to exist?” Pretty sure that was primarily the right wing libertarian bunch that’s driving the bus in the Republican Party now.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
Again, that's different than actually salivating at the death of an employer. White Doug isn't just saying he wants competition to thrive and that he wants the free market to prevail. He's saying he hates UHC, and therefore wants them to die.
Hiboglossi
The Most Depressing Person
I thought you supported Single-Payer? Which would presumably lead to a big drop in business for United Healthcare. Although single payer will likely never happen in the USA which I recall you're more realistic about it than most progressives.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
I would love single payer! But we don't have single payer, so those would just be lost jobs. He's wishing for 330,000 families to be without livelihoods. Just because he hates corporations. Even though he works for one.
Socialists never make sense. They're just angry.
Hiboglossi
The Most Depressing Person
Often true. Things like that are why I often find the far left distasteful even though I agree with many of their policies.
This whole thing reminds of during the 2020 Democratic Primaries, when candidate who was a running on single-payer attacked Buttigieg for supposedly causing layoffs at Blue Cross Blue Shield (he worked for a consulting firm that had BCBS as a client several years before the layoffs).
moxiepilot
Well-Known Member
Um, you're wrong, but you probably don't want to hear that. The "science" has completed the research and it has been published, but you probably don't want to hear that either
Bob Ridpath
Pit Bull love
I did have it. It WAS a big deal. I may have antibodies but I got the vaccine anyway, and will also get any required boosters. Flu shot (number 38, maybe?) coming up in a couple weeks, too.
I thank God (or someone) almost daily that I’m not in the workforce any longer.
Richman
JC’s Resident Curmudgeon
Most “journalism” I come across these days, both written and via other media, seems to be created by people who got fired from their job at the car wash.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
You're looking in the wrong places, then.
