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You do remember what happened when the Obama Administration tried to say that ketchup isn't a vegetable, right?
Exactly. His ilk wanted to hang Michelle Obama for trying to make school lunches healthier. Now this hypocritical dipwad is calling for the govt to mandate exercise, instead of a vaccination.
 
I think you mean it couldn't be considered as meeting a vegetable requirement in the school lunch program.

The issue is moot anyways, tomatoes are fruit, not vegetables.
Then ketchup is a fruit juice, right?

(It runs in the family - my 91 year old dad makes a valid logical argument that beer is a vegetable.)
 
Then ketchup is a fruit juice, right?

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If you all are on Reddit, you might find the HarmanCainAward thread interesting.

Disclaimer: I do not like glorifying someone’s death. It is just interesting to see how staunchly anti-vax, and buy into conspiracy theories even as their health falls apart due to covid. The damaging effects are far more reaching than just the individuals.
 
Exactly. His ilk wanted to hang Michelle Obama for trying to make school lunches healthier. Now this hypocritical dipwad is calling for the govt to mandate exercise, instead of a vaccination.

Of course, if you’’re old enough you might remember a time the Federal government DID involve itself in physical education “goals” for the nation (close enough practically to a “mandate” to be widely embraced by both the public and in school phys ed classes). We were certainly reminded often enough while doing squat thrusts and climbing ropes (or trying) of the then-President’s (and his Council on Physical Fitness) desire that we achieved the fitness goals they felt were important.

 
Of course, if you’’re old enough you might remember a time the Federal government DID involve itself in physical education “goals” for the nation (close enough practically to a “mandate” to be widely embraced by both the public and in school phys ed classes). We were certainly reminded often enough while doing squat thrusts and climbing ropes (or trying) of the then-President’s (and his Council on Physical Fitness) desire that we achieved the fitness goals they felt were important.


Anyone who wants to argue against the necessity of physical education in schools needs to make the argument from a podium with the backdrop of any major water park in the country.


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  • AA changed our Covid sick leave for unvaccinated.


  • Eligibility for company-provided pandemic leave. Going forward, given there is an FDA-approved vaccine, pandemic leave will only be offered to team members who are fully vaccinated and who provide their vaccination card to us. Effective Oct. 1, if team members who choose to remain unvaccinated have to miss work due to COVID-19, they will need to use earned sick time and/or medical leave while away.
 
Yep. Wasn’t arguing against, simply noting historic precedent.

I regard parents endlessly stoking their child’s obesity with the same disgust as the super psycho parents that yank their kids out of class during reproductive health education and have 15 year olds using language like no-no spots.

It’s a form of child abuse/neglect but it’s one we are collectively too comfortable with as a society.

Somebody remarked in another thread about doctors being less cordial and more direct/rude about the needs of a patient. Gym class was the same thing. “Bobby, you’re fat… and you need to change something to do something about that, here is a class designed to teach and mentor you on physical fitness and how to effectively achieve it. You’ll thank me when your 38 and not having a conversation on how to live as a diabetic.”


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here is a class designed to teach and mentor you on physical fitness and how to effectively achieve it.

Never had a gym class like that. We usually played some sort of sport, with a few gym warriors and the rest of the class doing as little as possible. Who wanted to get sweaty when you still had most of the school day ahead and no showers?
 
Never had a gym class like that. We usually played some sort of sport, with a few gym warriors and the rest of the class doing as little as possible. Who wanted to get sweaty when you still had most of the school day ahead and no showers?

Or, in my case, get picked last for everything. Become a target for cannon-armed dodgeball warriors. All while the gym teachers leaned against the wall laughing.

Yeah I learned a ton. (/sarcasm) And avoided any type of gymnasium or organized sports for a decade afterwards. Gym class was school sanctioned child abuse for a lot of us.


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Never had a gym class like that. We usually played some sort of sport, with a few gym warriors and the rest of the class doing as little as possible. Who wanted to get sweaty when you still had most of the school day ahead and no showers?

My uncle (the JROTC teacher after retirement) and my sister the high-school teacher were actually remarking about that and how it hobbled any sort of real attempt at physical fitness. It wasn’t that they weren’t available, because if your school had any sort of team sports it almost certainly had showers. Nobody today wants to manage that disaster so instead of teaching hygiene as part of health and fitness let’s just get that parachute out and some soccer balls.

We still had showers when I went through it, and just because bullying can and does exist in one facet of school doesn’t mean terminate it. Christ the band had bullies in it. That’s up to the teachers with that whole foster a positive learning environment mandate but they would rather we just avoid the issue all together and pass the cost to society of a bunch of fat non competitive adults.


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Gym class was the first time I was given the opportunity to kick the bullies in the nads and not be punished for it, provided it was done with a fig leaf of plausible sporting deniability.

Removing the reality of physicality from the education of kids doesn't make it go away, just as shoving them behind a computer screen doesn't change the fact that they will eventually have to have interpersonal relationships. And (predictably) kids are bad at understanding and knowing the appropriate bounds of things about which they weren't educated.

IMHO, this is in no small part why Damned Kids These Days <tm> can't look anyone in the eye, watch porn instead of chasing tail, and bring a bazooka to a fistfight.

And of course, obviously, get off my lawn, etc.
 
Are kids actually not doing stuff like that tho? Seems like erryone I know has they kids in all kinds of physical activities from sports to dance to martial arts. Shoot I just spent a weekend throwing frisbees with a gal whose job is to travel to schools around the country and teach gym classes full of kids to throw frisbees.
In any case the roots of our obesity epidemic are way deeper than “they don’t let kids play dodgeball any more!!!”.
 
I can clearly see from this map that it’s true that those liberal states with their kinder gentler PE classes are the ones driving the obesity epidemic.
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Are kids actually not doing stuff like that tho? Seems like erryone I know has they kids in all kinds of physical activities from sports to dance to martial arts. Shoot I just spent a weekend throwing frisbees with a gal whose job is to travel to schools around the country and teach gym classes full of kids to throw frisbees.
In any case the roots of our obesity epidemic are way deeper than “they don’t let kids play dodgeball any more!!!”.

Oh there’s plenty of blame to go around for it…

The ready availability of high indulgence garbage foods and snacks, the fat acceptance movement and celebration of obesity as a, “lifestyle choice,” the backlash against competitive activities as some sort of toxic by academic advocates of what is and isn’t healthy who from the looks of them were terrible at them and living some sort of PTSD…

Question is how do you get in front of it and like Sex Ed as a method to combat pregnancy and STDs, gym and early inclusion into a culture of fitness is a big way to do it. Go talk to an early childhood or junior high educator. Gym class has historically gone from a forced participation grade effecting event to a participation only event to now elective or in some systems non existence. Same with upper education. While universities claim the idea of a broad educational experience and well rounded academic profile as essential, unless you’re at a service academy or similar type school nobody is going to make you do anything physical/martial unless you are trying to become a gym teacher.


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Oh there’s plenty of blame to go around for it…

The ready availability of high indulgence garbage foods and snacks, the fat acceptance movement and celebration of obesity as a, “lifestyle choice,” the backlash against competitive activities as some sort of toxic by academic advocates of what is and isn’t healthy who from the looks of them were terrible at them and living some sort of PTSD…

Question is how do you get in front of it and like Sex Ed as a method to combat pregnancy and STDs, gym and early inclusion into a culture of fitness is a big way to do it. Go talk to an early childhood or junior high educator. Gym class has historically gone from a forced participation grade effecting event to a participation only event to now elective or in some systems non existence. Same with upper education. While universities claim the idea of a broad educational experience and well rounded academic profile as essential, unless you’re at a service academy or similar type school nobody is going to make you do anything physical/martial unless you are trying to become a gym teacher.


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As usual, you look at things and come out with a completely bananas conclusion, in this case that kids don’t stay fit because we don’t push them to compete. Maybe not for you, but for a lot of people the obsession with making everything a competition drives them AWAY from an activity. Like that’s literally the “kid who hated gym class in school” stereotype. You want to increase physical activity, introduce kids to physical activities they can enjoy if they’re NOT type A hyper competitive weirdos.

And of course, wealth inequality is another big driver. Harder to prep healthy meals and get the kids involved in outdoor activities when you don’t have extra time and money.
 
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Never had a gym class like that. We usually played some sort of sport, with a few gym warriors and the rest of the class doing as little as possible. Who wanted to get sweaty when you still had most of the school day ahead and no showers?

The world certainly changed. We had gym clothes into which to change and showers, too, that were required use.
 
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