Delta CEO Upset Regarding Comments About US Cabin Crews

I'm just gonna leave this here...
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Derg said:
I think the "Grannies and Grandes"-type pilots who complain about that stuff would be fit to be tied if the tables were turned.

"OMG, so many fat pilots!"

"So nerdy! Who wears short sleeves with a tie!"

"Is it illegal to have a tailor? Ba! Nice floods, skipper!"

"He introduced himself as 'Viper', what is he, twelve? Oh my gamer-tag is ItsColdInZoneTwoAndHittingAGymWouldntKillYouOnTheLayover"

"They all talk to my boobs as if they had a chance!"

:)


Oh man, the aviation internet would be ablaze.
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A customer above all wants a competent pilot, not a good looking one. I think when it comes to inflight customers would sacrifice some competency for good looks.
 
Nick said:
That's fine to leave there as long as you don't mind me leaving this here -- intentionally a slightly different spin on the same overall theme, but the same exact year in the same country: 1965.

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Does al baker want to go back in time?

Or is he just living today in what our part of the world considers the past.

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Except that still happens
 
Derg said:
Because, you know, the Qatar CEO is such a looker.

Most of the people who bitch about the age and/or physical condition of their cabin crews generally aren't getting casting calls from "Chippendales" themselves.
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I was driving to SFO on 19th Ave and in stopped traffic at a light I caught this couple waving at me from another car.

I rolled down my window:

"Hey my wife thinks you're in the military do you drive a boat or something?"

Me grinning like the best day of my life: "Nope, I'm a stripper."

Best day of being an airline pilot so far.


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Nick said:
That's fine to leave there as long as you don't mind me leaving this here -- intentionally a slightly different spin on the same overall theme, but the same exact year in the same country: 1965.

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Does al baker want to go back in time?

Or is he just living today in what our part of the world considers the past.

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I was simply offering some historical perspective. Apparently, In 1965, hiring women who were predominantly young and attractive as stewardesses was seen as a good and normal thing. Now it's sexist, ageist, chauvinist, patriarchal, objectifying and myriad other versions of discrimination, and corporate HR departments jump at the opportunity to condemn these practices and virtue signal to the public. I am merely pointing out the hypocrisy in the company's past. The QATAR ceo's comments were certainly offensive and tasteless, but Americans as a whole have in the last several decades become the most obese and unhealthy society the world has seen and it is reaching crisis proportions. We should be held accountable and taunted by other nations as in my opinion it is a an embarrassment, and a sign of our lack of self respect.
 
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RamRise said:
I was simply offering some historical perspective. Apparently, In 1965, hiring women who were predominantly young and attractive as stewardesses was seen as a good and normal thing. Now it's sexist, ageist, chauvinist, patriarchal, objectifying and myriad other versions of discrimination, and corporate HR departments jump at the opportunity to condemn these practices and virtue signal to the public. I am merely pointing out the hypocrisy in the company's past. The QATAR ceo's comments were certainly offensive and tasteless, but Americans as a whole have in the last several decades become the most obese and unhealthy society the world has seen and it is reaching crisis proportions. We should be held accountable and taunted by other nations as in my opinion it is a an embarrassment, and a sign of our lack of self respect.
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If I'm not mistaken, up even into the 1990s, FAs at some US airlines were having to do height/weight checks, either during hiring or at certain set times also.

Do that with pilots, and we'd definitely have a pilot shortage. :)
 
MikeD said:
If I'm not mistaken, up even into the 1990s, FAs at some US airlines were having to do height/weight checks, either during hiring or at certain set times also.

Do that with pilots, and we'd definitely have a pilot shortage. :)
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Please for the love of god do that. Tighten up the class one medical requirements, salary and QOL would go through the roof.


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RamRise said:
Apparently, In 1965, hiring women who were predominantly young and attractive as stewardesses was seen as a good and normal thing. Now it's sexist, ageist, chauvinist, patriarchal, objectifying and myriad other versions of discrimination, and corporate HR departments jump at the opportunity to condemn these practices and virtue signal to the public.
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Um, maybe that's because it is all of those things. You like the idea of these hiring requirements for Flight Attendants, but you would be singing a different tune if you had to comply with such stringent requirements for your own job or if you were forced to retire as soon as you turned 32. Plenty of things were seen as good things in 1965 that are not good at all, such as segregation (although it was already controversial enough for the Civil Rights Act of that year to pass) and drafting men to fight what was essentially a foreign nations civil war, and denying many of these men the right to vote (since you could be drafted at 18, but the minimum voting age was 21 in most jurisdictions as the 26th amendment had not yet been ratified).

HR departments are not "virtue signalling" by no longer enforcing such requirements, but complying with just anti-discrimination laws and simply exercising commonsense.

Also, flight attendants are not just their to look pretty; they are there for passenger's safety. Personally I would much prefer flight attendants be hired based on their competence and ability to perform their role in ensuring passenger safety rather than arbitrary age,marital status and appearance requirements.

RamRise said:
I am merely pointing out the hypocrisy in the company's past. The QATAR ceo's comments were certainly offensive and tasteless, but Americans as a whole have in the last several decades become the most obese and unhealthy society the world has seen and it is reaching crisis proportions. We should be held accountable and taunted by other nations as in my opinion it is a an embarrassment, and a sign of our lack of self respect.
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Plenty of companies have vastly different policies from what they had in 1965.

And I have to say, I've always found it odd how so many people are offended by other people's obesity. Certainly being overweight or obese in unhealthy, but that really only affects the obese person themselves. I see the widespread obesity in our society as a sign that we live in on of the most prosperous and plentiful societies in recorded history, with a wide variety of food available to most people and where most people, even relatively poor people have access to enough food to sustain themselves. I for one count myself lucky to live in such a society; I have access to a greater quantity and variety of food at lower prices than most people throughout history could ever have dreamed of. Qatar can ridicule us as much as they like, but I'll take a society that accepts obesity over a society that accepts slavery any day. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...slavery-is-actively-facilitated-10080555.html
 
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MikeD said:
If I'm not mistaken, up even into the 1990s, FAs at some US airlines were having to do height/weight checks, either during hiring or at certain set times also.
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You do remember what it took to maneuver down the aisles of some of the airplanes the commuters were flying back then right?
 
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