Champcar
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The Saudi 90's have a 717 like cockpit with glass if I'm not mistaken.
Delta and MD-90
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Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
More like the old MD-11s, but the difference is big enough that the FAA said "No" to operating them with just differences training.
typhoonpilot
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The Saudi's bought 29 MD-90 Enhanced Flight Deck aircraft. They were the original design of the MD-90 until DAL became the launch customer and decided to have an antiquated cockpit. It incorporates a full glass cockpit ( 6 screens across ); a Honeywell Pegasus FMC; and a push button ( dark cockpit concept ) overhead panel. It's actually the best all around airplane I've ever flown. It can be flown using full automation ( LNAV/VNAV ); like the original MD-80 with just the MCP; or like a DC-9 with everything turned off.
The Saudis probably parted a couple of them out so that is why I'm seeing the 27 figure now, but there were originally 29.
The 717 mode control panel/FMC is more like an MD-11. It is not at all like an MD-90EFD.
Typhoonpilot
The Saudis probably parted a couple of them out so that is why I'm seeing the 27 figure now, but there were originally 29.
The 717 mode control panel/FMC is more like an MD-11. It is not at all like an MD-90EFD.
Typhoonpilot
KSCessnaDriver
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Indeed there are 29. I wasn't sure which number it was, but now that I've looked back at it, it is 29. Currently, there are 109 MD-90's in service worldwide, which include the 16 Delta has. So, subtract the 29 of SV, and you end up with 80. I'd probably subtract the 2 that were built in Shanghai, and end up with 78. Wouldn't surprise me to see Delta end up with all of those.
typhoonpilot
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Eva Airways/Uni Airways seem pretty happy with their's so I don't think they are looking to sell them now. I just rode on an Eva MD-90 from TPE to MFM. Perhaps in time they will sell, but they are already 14 years old.
TP
Hi!
From what I have read:
DC-9-3xs have been going into and out of the desert depending on needs. The -3xs are scheduled to stop flying relatively soon. The DC-9-50s are expected to fly 8-10 more years.
Note: Many pilots I meet in Africa are AMAZED that ANY US airline is still flying MD-90s, much less -80s or even the DC-9s. Some guys told me I must be mistaken and that there is 0 chance that a US airline is now flying a DC-9 for passengers. They tell me the -9s are older than 20 years, so they legally can't fly in the US.
DAL is planning on having 74 MD-90s. They say it is their most efficient narrow-body aircraft.
The company I am flying for has -9s and one MD-83 so far. There are many, many MD-8Xs coming online in Africa in the next few years. Also, an MD-8X cargo mod STC program is starting next year, to convert the longer MD-8Xs to cargo, and we think it will be WILDLY successful! The MD type rating (or -9 and differences training for US pilots) looks to be very good for the future in many parts of the world.
cliff
LFW (Lome, Togo)
From what I have read:
DC-9-3xs have been going into and out of the desert depending on needs. The -3xs are scheduled to stop flying relatively soon. The DC-9-50s are expected to fly 8-10 more years.
Note: Many pilots I meet in Africa are AMAZED that ANY US airline is still flying MD-90s, much less -80s or even the DC-9s. Some guys told me I must be mistaken and that there is 0 chance that a US airline is now flying a DC-9 for passengers. They tell me the -9s are older than 20 years, so they legally can't fly in the US.
DAL is planning on having 74 MD-90s. They say it is their most efficient narrow-body aircraft.
The company I am flying for has -9s and one MD-83 so far. There are many, many MD-8Xs coming online in Africa in the next few years. Also, an MD-8X cargo mod STC program is starting next year, to convert the longer MD-8Xs to cargo, and we think it will be WILDLY successful! The MD type rating (or -9 and differences training for US pilots) looks to be very good for the future in many parts of the world.
cliff
LFW (Lome, Togo)