Delta 717 dual engine failure?

[Trip7]

They're doing DTW-IAH; I've done a bunch of those that had enough time to watch a 2-3 hour movie.

Very true. I've been thinking ATL trips.


4-day:


DAY 1
ATL-GSP
GSP-ATL
ATL-ECP
ECP-ATL
ATL-EWR

DAY 2
EWR-ATL
ATL-JAN

DAY 3
JAN-ATL
ATL-ORD
ORD-ATL
ATL-SAV

DAY 4
SAV-ATL
ATL-TLH
TLH-ATL
ATL-PNS
PNS-ATL

22.25 Pay

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Very true. I've been thinking ATL trips.


4-day:


DAY 1
ATL-GSP
GSP-ATL
ATL-ECP
ECP-ATL
ATL-EWR

DAY 2
EWR-ATL
ATL-JAN

DAY 3
JAN-ATL
ATL-ORD
ORD-ATL
ATL-SAV

DAY 4
SAV-ATL
ATL-TLH
TLH-ATL
ATL-PNS
PNS-ATL

22.25 Pay

Hey, that looks vaguely familiar. But you have packs that work, right?

 

[Trip7]

Hey, that looks vaguely familiar. But you have packs that work, right?

I imagine this kind of trip would be MUCH more pilot friendly on a 717 vs CRJ200.

Good Packs, Vnav, autothrottles, dual FMS, localizer freq auto tuning, great climb performance, and best of all, good pay.

 

[Itchy]

They're probably just skipping to the last minute or so anyway.

No, the last minute, the "actors" are just snuggling and kissing anyways.....

 

[Proud Pilot]

Delta also had a dual engine failure taking off from LAX in a 762. It was operator error. Almost put it into the Pacific.

 

[Baronman]

That's interesting. On the CRJ we would get warnings whenever popping the de-activated thrust lever to reverse and it was an idiot light saying you screwed up. When I went thru Airbus initial I didn't bring the de-activated reverser into reverse and the instructor made a big, big point about how you always do both. I guess that story is the reason why. I never really thought it would be an issue but I can see in the Airbus it could be, although I don't know why you'd only retard one thrust lever from climb to idle in the flare. The same thing would happen in an aircraft without autothrust so I dunno. Anyway always nice to have some background on the procedures.

They were way behind the 8-ball if they thought that they had to leave one of the Thrust Levers in the climb detent....Perhaps the two pilots weren't on the same page in that regard. "Hey Cap...just want to make sure on landing you're going to pull both thrust levers to idle right?" It just wouldn't cross my mind to ask, and I most likely wouldn't notice it in the flare...His hand goes back in the thrust quadrant = my brain thinks he's going to idle...on BOTH.

 

[Cal Goat]

Odds are it was a MX test. Though that would be strange in SFO...

That's what the captain and I were thinking. SFO is not the kind of MX base where test flights like that happen. SLC pilots apparently do it all the time and report that it's incredibly loud.

 

[Bama]

With the stage lengths of the 717 hard to imagine movies being watched

With the stage lengths of the CRJ it's hard to imagine you playing Candy Crush

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

I imagine this kind of trip would be MUCH more pilot friendly on a 717 vs CRJ200. Good Packs, Vnav, autothrottles, dual FMS, localizer freq auto tuning, great climb performance, and best of all, good pay.

Still looks horrid to me.

 

[Screaming_Emu]

When the plane was with it's previous owner a friend of mine was on the jumpseat when the CA told the FO to get his laptop out and they watched 70s porn the whole way up to (insert city here).

He just wanted a ride home. It was awkward.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

I've never understood the appeal of sitting around and watching porn with another dude. Why is this a group activity?

 

[derg]

I've never understood the appeal of sitting around and watching porn with another dude. Why is this a group activity?

That would be very awkward.

Now the movie "Showgirls" — that's a group event so you can heckle it, but I'm not about to watch "A.T.M. Six" with a bunch of dudes.

 

[falconvalley]

That would explain the fuel switch guard on the Delta 717 that took me to work the other day. I asked about it and both pilots said it was added when they got them from AT.

Weird. They must be still installing them because the one I rode to Detroit on Monday did not have guards.

 

[BobDDuck]

Man... and I thought I had problems in the plane today.

No RAT on the 717. Just 1 hour of battery life for "critical" systems. There are no hydraulic controls (except for the rudder, and that has a manual backup) so even with no electrical power, the plane is still controllable.

I've seen somebody accidentally kill one engine (while on the ground) by just pushing down on the fuel switch. The detents aren't that deep so I can totally see how that would happen.

 

[Cptnchia]

Very true. I've been thinking ATL trips.


4-day:


DAY 1
ATL-GSP
GSP-ATL
ATL-ECP
ECP-ATL
ATL-EWR

DAY 2
EWR-ATL
ATL-JAN

DAY 3
JAN-ATL
ATL-ORD
ORD-ATL
ATL-SAV

DAY 4
SAV-ATL
ATL-TLH
TLH-ATL
ATL-PNS
PNS-ATL

22.25 Pay

Damn! That's a lotta work on a 4 day for 22 hours. I think I'll stay on the ER and do 4 day, 2 legs for 23 hours instead.

 

[Groundpounder]

That would be very awkward.

Now the movie "Showgirls" — that's a group event so you can heckle it, but I'm not about to watch "A.T.M. Six" with a bunch of dudes.

I've only seen A.T.M. 1-5, does 6 have the same depth of plot as the rest of the series? I really enjoyed the character development in 3, but when the meth lab exploded, most of the cast got killed.

 

[Trip7]

Damn! That's a lotta work on a 4 day for 22 hours. I think I'll stay on the ER and do 4 day, 2 legs for 23 hours instead.

True, but it's all about perspective. A very junior Southernjetter who has flown 24 leg 4 days on the CR2 in the middle of June for $45/hr will be jumping for joy to do that trip on the 717 for $68/hr, let alone 2nd year pay.

Once they get to a line holding position on the ER, I'm sure it will be speechless Nirvana

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

Oy.

 

[BobDDuck]

Damn! That's a lotta work on a 4 day for 22 hours. I think I'll stay on the ER and do 4 day, 2 legs for 23 hours instead.

It's all about perspective. I've got to 5 single day trips just to get to 22 hours. And over those five days I'm doing 34 or more legs. That 16 leg trip looks pretty good to me.

 

[BobDDuck]

in the middle of June

The packs, while certainly better than the CRJ, aren't all that great on many of the 717s. Granted we have a bunch of older models, and it IS rather hot out here, but the airplane I was in yesterday didn't blow very cool air at all.