darn youngins.......

Saddly enough I remember almost all that stuff:

Flown a Flaps 40 Skyhawk
Flown in a ARSA
Flown a 121 flight that ended with a full NDB approach
Learned VLF/OMEGA Nav but it was dcmd before I got to use it
FLOWN a LORAN C aircraft
My Company's entire fleet is /A
Anyone remember the Cessna 172's that had manual rudder trim wheel and skylights?
FLOWN a King Air with the old school RNAV
 
Anybody else hand-prop a plane on a regular basis? I did it for a summer while towing banners in Cubs, and a few other times here and there...

...or anybody fly actual IFR in a plane with an old-school black-and-white Artificial Horizon...the kind with the "sky pointer" and the little white horizon line?

I swear I'm not an old guy, I've just flown some old airplanes.
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only hand propped a plane once...Then I refused to do it....

I have a few hours in a lear 23 that hand that old school AI as the backup...
 
Mike,

About a year ago, when I was brokering airplanes, I sold one for a local gentleman that I think you would of enjoyed. It was an immaculate 1978 210. It still had the gear doors, a very low time factory engine, recent paint and interior, and some nicely updated avionics (okay, maybe you wouldn't like the last part)
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One of the neat things about the job was the opportunity to fly a lot of different GA planes. I had days when I would fly a Baron in the morning, a Mooney in the afternoon and finish up with hand propping a 1943 Cub for a little sightseeing before sunset.

Also, I would be all over a PA-48.

FlyChicaga,

Saw you in the Stop Over Store last week. You were on your cell phone, or I would have said "hi".
 
Fan Markers are a leftover from the "radio range" era. And, as old as MikeD likes to make himself look. I'd like to challange anyone from the radio range era to speak up...doubt there are any here. Not me.

Look up the VOR-A into Wenatchee, WA. It still has the Malaga Fan Marker as a stepdown fix. At least that is one thing that hasn't changed since I got my IFR rating there in 1980.

Basically, a fan marker is like a marker beacon, it transmitts straight up on 75MHZ and makes the white lite on your marker panel go off.
 
Dude, sorry I missed ya! I was meeting up with a buddy from new-hire training and was trying to coordinate. Next time just smack the phone off my ear.
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I tell ya what, I'm learning how to fly using those fancy new fangled devices and I gotta say something.

It's cool to have all of that stuff, and yes, it certainly adds a level of safety to the cockpit environment.

But it's so much cooler to fly by looking out the window!
 
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The right seat in the Aztec I fly has one of those.
 
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I tell ya what, I'm learning how to fly using those fancy new fangled devices and I gotta say something.

It's cool to have all of that stuff, and yes, it certainly adds a level of safety to the cockpit environment.

But it's so much cooler to fly by looking out the window!

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The other night coming into Boston...

Capt: "Here, want me to arm approach mode?"
Me: "Nah, here [clicks off flight director] I'm going to do it like this."
Capt: "Whoa, alright man, if you say so."
 
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The other night coming into Boston...

Capt: "Here, want me to arm approach mode?"
Me: "Nah, here [clicks off flight director] I'm going to do it like this."
Capt: "Whoa, alright man, if you say so."

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I'm with ya! I'm flying a lot under the hood so that I can get that instrument rating. And you know what?

It sucks. I'm fixated on these stupid screens when there's a gorgeous world out there to see.

I know I have to do it and I know why it has to be done. But I still think it sucks.
 
Bandit Driver: Good reminder! I'd forgotten about the Cessna singles with the manual rudder trim and the two skylights!

Buck Turgidson: A '78 210? That would've been neat to see. I can still remember when the first P210s were coming out.....I believe the N-model was the first one, the one that had the WX radar hanging in a pod under the wing. Neat aircraft.

DE727: Radio Range era! Nice. It's funny, you go east of PHX into the Apache Junction area, and just north of the town there, near the Bush Highway, is the old large white PHOENIX sign on the south face of a large hill with an arrow pointing west that the US Mail pilots used to use. Neat stuff.

Don, you ever use a comm radio with the frequencies tuned in kilocycles?
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"Don, you ever use a comm radio with the frequencies tuned in kilocycles?"

No dude...I'm not that friggen old.

I've seen the old "compass style" directional gyros.
I used to get airport advisories from Wenatchee FSS for traffic info.
I've practiced DF steers.
I've even remember to speaking face to face with a flight service briefer.

Gawd...the good old days.

How much longer you in Vegas for?
 
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No dude...I'm not that friggen old.

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LOL. Just kidding with you!
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I've seen the old "compass style" directional gyros.
I used to get airport advisories from Wenatchee FSS for traffic info.
I've practiced DF steers.
I've even remember to speaking face to face with a flight service briefer.

Gawd...the good old days.

How much longer you in Vegas for?

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Yup same. DF steers.....practice only, of course.
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FSSs that provided airport advisory service......I remember that at Imperial, California. Used the old 123.6 freq.

Face to face with FSS briefers...........good old times.

Vegas will be for another 3 weeks. Gotta train our tactics to see what works and what doesn't.
 
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Quite a few years back I used to fly a C-310(K model) with one of those. Hated it. It would have been OK if I flew that plane enough to get used to it, but I was always switching planes and that dang thing always was operating *backwards*. I flew one of my worst ILS approaches in that plane - ceilings were about 400 foot, flying into PHL, busy day and a tight turn-on - and I was all over the place. I think I almost got full scale deflection on both sides of the localizer on that one. High workload environment (single pilot) and every time I'd want to make a small heading adjustment (or my heading would start to wander a little) I'd look at that dang DG and make the initial turn the wrong direction. Ugh. After that trip I quickly learned the "Left turn for Lower heading numbers" trick rather than looking to the DG.

Thanks for the bad memories.....
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That's what this thread is all about......well, maybe not all about.
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Of course, then there's ROFCIBC, who can remember the cockpits that had 5 crewmembers on the KC-97.....pilot/co-pilot/FE/Nav/ and radio operator.
 
I remember when the temperature in the ATIS was given in F, not C.

Got my PPL in '88, so all those "old" airspace designators used to be quite fresh. No more, though.

I do remember the old, real VFR Corridor over the top of LAX. Those were the days.

Flight directors are nice, but I rarely use them. The last time the autopilot was on below 5000' ... I can't remember. I took this job to fly, not program a computer.
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Heck I remember getting all hyped-up when I ran into my first non-slaved HSI in a PA44!
 
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Ouch, that hurts. Wish I could still claim that in my airframe!
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Ballast-Boy!
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Yup. I'm sort of like an Air Force Nav, or Naval Flight Officer now.........
 
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